Forum Guidelines » I need help » 7/12/2017 2:03 pm |
I agree Avaelle - as I said in a follow up post.
My point was that on a forum and on Vernonicas videos when she said 'if you have the desire, it must be desiring you'(I'm paraphrasing). We don't know the stories of people here or watching Veronicas videos so saying it as it must be the case is inappropriate in my opinion and potentially damaging. We don't know if it's desire or obsession.
Forum Guidelines » I need help » 7/12/2017 1:00 pm |
No happyinlove, I believe in LOA 100% because I understand it and know it works and how it works. I know it's worked for me and other people and why.
And happy, you don't. And that's why it isn' t working for you and why you're NOT happyinlove after years and why you're projecting your anger at me.
And that's okay. I can take it. But LOA isn't about obsession or desperation or being treated badly and being unhappy all the time and clinging on to people who don't care. It just isn't.
I could sit here and say 'carry on, you go girl!' Keep going on you'll get him just the way you're doing things but that hasn't worked for 2 years has it?. You coming back with a little glimmer of hope for 5 minutes then updating with the latest upsetting event.
You'll feel better for a few minutes with a 'oh he's on his way' post and then come back in pain. Like you have over and over again.
Believe it or not, I know this stuff works and know when it won't work. And I care about people making the same mistakes and ending up in pain all the time because they just don't GET IT.
I love this forum. There is some great advice and some not so good and some which I think is downright damaging. And that's not a criticism of the forum - it's an open forum with a mix of people and I think that it should be okay to have differing opinions.
You listen or you don't. I know I'm saying some things that people don't want to hear and some people won't agree. That's fine.
I have a very happy and fulfilled life. And because of that, I do care about people being happy. And not for a few minutes because I've said what they want to hear, but to be happy long term.
If anyone doesn't want to hear what I say. That's fine!, ignore it. But I won't not say it if I really think it will help. People do with it what they will.
LOA isn't 'the secret'. It isn't you getting whatever you want every time. It isn't asking for it and getting it.
The secret sold millions upon millions of copies. That's just on
Forum Guidelines » I need help » 7/12/2017 12:21 pm |
Cross posted with 80s again! We're singing from the same hymn sheet lol!
Forum Guidelines » I need help » 7/12/2017 12:19 pm |
This is the thing about 'desire' and LOA and why I feel uncomfortable about it 'always working both ways'.
I absolutely believe there is a difference between desire and obsession and LOA will only work for desire and not obsession.
But on a forum like this we often don't know peoples stories and when Veronica says it in her 'get your ex back in 25 days', we don't and she doesn't know if we're talking about someone who had an established relationship with someone so desire might 'go both ways' or if we're talking about someone who calls their 'ex' the person they went on one or two dates with or maybe even didn't meet; just chatted on social media who absolutely doesn't desire them at all. And reading or hearing 'if you desire them, they must desire you' is probably completely inaccurate.
So that's why I feel uncomfortable with it.
Forum Guidelines » I need help » 7/12/2017 11:18 am |
I don't think desire always works both ways and like 80s, I feel very uncomfortable when I read that and felt uncomfortable when Veronica said it it one of her videos.
Sometimes it works both ways but it doesn't always. If it did, stalkers wouldn't exist and they do.
I'd not contact him at all and let him come to you. He will if there is desire from both sides.
Help me align please... 🙈 » Moving on... » 7/12/2017 10:58 am |
You really need to stop and think and examine yourself and develop some self-love and confidence. Try and manifest that before even thinking about having any kind of relationship with anyone.
You need to be so happy and comfortable with your life and with YOU as a person so that when you meet someone you can get to know them. Not immediately think you have a connection and then start obsessing about their communication with you or what they may be doing and then feeling like it's the end of the world when they don't want you.
Meeting people and dating should be fun! It shouldn't cause all this angst within days. You shouldn't have so much emotion and self-worth invested so quickly.
And please, don't contact her anymore. You will get in trouble and it doesn't help you in any way.
Work on YOU. You don't seem like a bad guy at all but you need to figure out what it is that is causing you to have such extreme reactions and emotional responses whenever you meet someone you like.
Help me align please... 🙈 » Moving on... » 7/08/2017 12:24 pm |
I don't think it takes a guru to recognise damaging behaviour. And if you'd read all the posts you wouldn't be flippant about it.
On any other chat forum it would be picked up quickly as out of the ordinary but on a LOA forum it's often inadvertently encouraged 'hey, go YOU! You'll get what you want, don't let reality set you back, she must want you if you want her, ignore her saying she wants you to leave her alone - she just can't handle her strong feelings for you, it's a good sign if you're blocked on everything, yeah she messaged you to say again, leave her alone but that means she's thinking of you! Yeah, seeing her name today is definitely a sign you're on the right path etc etc
LOA forums are manna from heaven for an obsessive/stalker/harasser.
Help me align please... 🙈 » Moving on... » 7/08/2017 11:58 am |
And actually I'll go a bit further hoping it'll shock you into stepping back and sorting yourself out.
You were lucky not to be issued with a restraining order with your 'love'. If you had behaved that way with me, I would have issued one. And I have done with someone very similar.
This is a woman you have known for days and you are already think you are entitled to contact her when you want and have her respond within your time frame. 3 hrs isn't long. At all. And you're already saying 'WHO is more important than me, WHO is she talking to?' And WHO is she driving to see?. It is none of your business. She is a woman you've met a few times, you have no say about what she does or with who. It is very worrying that you think this way.
It is frightening that you think it has anything to do with you at all and will quickly become frightening to her.
As happened with your 'love'. And then you still didn't stop. You had no respect for her wishes and became enraged when she did'nt do what you wanted. You are transferring obsession to another person. You will end up in court this time if you don't nip this in the bud and seek Psychiatric help.
And I say this with care for you. A LOA forum is not the best place for someone with obsessive and possessive behaviour. It increases the inappropriate and unwanted (by the other person) thoughts.
And if I get deleted or banned - I'll accept that.
Help me align please... 🙈 » I'm Done.. Giving Up » 7/08/2017 11:16 am |
So don't be puzzled. Just accept it's about them and not you and you won't know why. Don't give it energy. Don't take that energy into the next friendship.
It hurts a bit I know.
Help me align please... 🙈 » Moving on... » 7/08/2017 11:00 am |
I mean this kindly.
You are TOO NEEDY. It is controlling and possessive and obsessive and desperately unattractive and quickly becomes a bit frightening for the other person. That is the energy you are projecting all the time.
You've done it before and it went really badly. Don't do it again.
Please. If you are still in this energy you need to fix you before you even consider a relationship with anyone else.