Veronica's Law of Attraction Forum / Acting as if

**Posted by Selfloveiskey** 1/25/2018 4:20 pm

Sorry i guys I disagree from my experience self love was big. I couldn't manifest without it. Strongly disagree . I feel like without it you end up dependent on someone else for love . Veronica and Agnes teach that that is a foundation and from my experience Agnes was 100%right

Last edited by Selfloveiskey (1/25/2018 4:22 pm)

**Posted by Selfloveiskey** 1/25/2018 4:27 pm

Honestly If it was all out of desperation and self love didn't matter wouldn't we all have our person back? I mean it seems kinda ridiculous to say it doesn't matter. You need self love to feel worthy and to believe you can have it . Without it you are just wanting them back and just needing them for stuff

**Posted by Selfloveiskey** 1/25/2018 4:31 pm

Sanshi wrote:
I fully agree with MiciJones. Self love is a nice thing, but it isn't needed to manifest anything unless you make your state dependent on it. When you believe that you need a certain portion of self love to manifest someone, that will be your experience of course. But you could drop that believe and take the direct route. Or you could just stop assuming that you don't love yourself and start assuming that you have been loving yourself your whole life anyway. Tons of possibilities to get to a certain spot. Bashar used the term permission slips for it. Nothing bad about using them, if you aren't ready to realize fully who you are yet, but it's helpful to be aware that it is only that - a tool.
From my own experience, I can tell that I got two exes back and I had never heard anything about self love and probably wasn't too far from cutting myself.

Isn't assuming you love yourself practicing self love ? That still shows you need it

**Posted by Avaelle** 1/25/2018 4:32 pm

Selfloveiskey wrote:
Sorry i guys I disagree from my experience self love was big. I couldn't manifest without it. Strongly disagree . I feel like without it you end up dependent on someone else for love . Veronica and Agnes teach that that is a foundation and from my experience Agnes was 100%right

I think it is necessary to attract a emotionally healthy & positive partner.

**Posted by unicornsandrainbows** 1/25/2018 5:22 pm

If I could just chime in...if you don't know who you are (how powerful you are), then sure, you might end up depending on someone else for love, and that is unattractive. And if your ex DOES comes back into the same exact situation (that is, you have not changed your thoughts and beliefs and feelings, the state you operate from), then it's quite probable you'll be stuck in another unhealthy relationship with him.

But we are manifesting all the time, self-love or no self-love. (whatever the heck that actually is). Like Mici and Sanshi said, you could absolutely hate yourself, but if you hate yourself and yet imagine and believe that your ex is absolutely obsessed with you, or that he is deeply in love with you, then that is what will transpire in your world.

I think the reason people equate "loving oneself" with "getting ex back" is because when you are in that state, the state of feeling good about YOU, then your thoughts and imaginings automatically become "I am loveable, I am awesome...therefore, *x must love me and think I'm awesome".

**Posted by Selfloveiskey** 1/25/2018 5:27 pm

I don't think we can have a healthy manifestation without self love . I just yeah it's that important .

**Posted by unicornsandrainbows** 1/25/2018 5:47 pm

Selfloveiskey wrote:
Isn't assuming you love yourself practicing self love ? That still shows you need it

"Assuming" requires no practice. It just is.

**Posted by Oasiscalm** 1/25/2018 5:47 pm

Sanshi wrote:
I fully agree with MiciJones. Self love is a nice thing, but it isn't needed to manifest anything unless you make your state dependent on it. When you believe that you need a certain portion of self love to manifest someone, that will be your experience of course. But you could drop that believe and take the direct route. Or you could just stop assuming that you don't love yourself and start assuming that you have been loving yourself your whole life anyway. Tons of possibilities to get to a certain spot. Bashar used the term permission slips for it. Nothing bad about using them, if you aren't ready to realize fully who you are yet, but it's helpful to be aware that it is only that - a tool.
From my own experience, I can tell that I got two exes back and I had never heard anything about self love and probably wasn't too far from cutting myself.

How can a state be dependent on self love. That makes absolutely no sense to me.

You make these grandiose statements about going straight to the state. How easy is it for a person to do? Not easy.

From your own experience did u go straight to the state of being with your desired one? By your own admission - no you didn't.

Getting to a state and staying in that state needs a solid foundation - it's needs absolute confidence in oneself's ability to have that. Now for one person it can just take a little tweaking and for others it takes alot more with work to shift blocks. Practicing Self love does NOT mean you don't love yourself. Self love is about an awareness of self.

You can quote Neville and every author u like but even they had to learn confidence in their ability. They too had periods of doubting.

It baffles me that an LOA forum would have people dissuading people about one taking the time to be holistic and investing in them-self.

**Posted by unicornsandrainbows** 1/25/2018 5:49 pm

Selfloveiskey wrote:
I don't think we can have a healthy manifestation without self love . I just yeah it's that important .

What makes a manifestation healthy? Do you mean "desired"? Did you ever desire a nice, warm, comfort food meal, and then have one? Was that before you started practicing self-love, or after?

**Posted by Selfloveiskey** 1/25/2018 5:51 pm

You know I just don't feel like explaining it. I think I'm done here for awhile. If you guys feel that you just need your person then go for it. I don't like the direction personally to be honest that this forum is going in. So I'm just gonna bounce and do me .