Lifesagas wrote:

This is a genuine question I've been thinking about a lot.

I 100% know that LOA works and can be used to manifest a specific person but in my opinion that's because you can get into an attractive vibe that naturally draws people to you.

But a lot of the posts on this forum and others centre around someone expressing that they don't want someone for whatever reason. Blocking or directly saying that they're not interested AT THIS TIME. And that can of course change.

But to me, if I really care about someone that means I respect them and therefore means I respect their opinions and feelings.

So if someone said they didn't want me or blocked me, I'd be hurt possibly but I wouldn't do anything to try and change their mind; either deliberately through contact or gifts or deliberately through any 'techniques'. Thats how they feel right now, I respect that. Their feelings can change but if they change it's because I'm a great person putting out an attractive vibe that they're drawn to. Not because i've 'worked' on them in some way or tried to change their mind.

To me, that's creating resistance straight away because you're prioritising what YOU want over what they want right now.

What do others think?

I agree totally with you. Sometimes though people have to deduce from zero contact what someone wants or doesn't and that is when confusion comes in.

Yep, that's what I think although I know these opinions are unpopular sometimes!

I know we must have all been in the position of deciding we don't want to go on anymore dates with someone or ending a relationship for whatever reason. The idea that the other person would think 'I don't care what you want right now, I've decided I want you and i'm going to do x, y and z to try and make you want me is just not LOA to me.

Love yourself, don't be needy or obsessive, be a loving and attractive person and you'll attract that to you is LOA to me. And it always works for me in that way.

That's a very different kind of 'mind control' though. That's basic political or economic psychosocial subconcious influence.

So a country will perceive risk when a government permits or creates lots of 'we're under attack from terrorists/immigrants/welfare cheats' newspaper articles or a supermarket putting the fresh food or the cheaper items at the front of the store because the customer perceives the store as fresh and wholesome or providing good value.

Yes we're all influenced every day without knowing it but that is very different to targeting an individual to try to bend them to your will.

And why would you want to? If I'm in a relationship I want it to be because that person is attracted to me/loves me because of me, because i'm awesome 😀! I want them to feel their own feelings, their own thoughts and express them with their own words. Not feelings/thoughts/words I've tried to put into their mind.

I have exactly the same experience but I think people get focused on 'techniques' and miss the basic principles and sometimes, the on-line stuff is confusing.

Agnes for example, who I LOVE is really clear in some of her videos that she thinks RS is creepy and she is pretty hardcore about saying to people who say they want to 'get' someone - well, you can't because you're needy and that's not loving and they don't want it! It is not the POIs job to make you feel good or loved or wanted, you need to give that to yourself; let it go and then you'll get it back.

But then she does rubbing out techniques and whispering techniques and like you, I think she's offering them as ways to make people feel better and get into a good vibrational state rather than 'if you do this technique, you'll get rid of that person or get this person to tell you what you want'. But I think some people don't always get that aspect and think it's something else they can use to possibly influence outcomes when Agnes whole philosophy is 'if you're trying to 'get' from a person, you won't!

Exactly! If you know it's yours and you're coming from self-love and not neediness or obsession, it'll happen!.

You don't need to do 'stuff' or try to force yourself in. It'll happen because you are in a great vibe, you're open to other possibilities, you have no attachment to it and people love you!