Posted by thedreamer11 7/26/2019 11:05 pm | #21 |
You have a beautiful mind Fizzy
"what this forum was made to discuss, can be confusing to people just starting out in learning to consciously create."
Very true, when I first meet Loa I did become very confused with this mixed approach ( materialism with Loa).
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Posted by PrettyFlamingo 7/27/2019 2:30 am | #22 |
Please remember everyone that this is a discussion board, and therefore we will find a variety of views and observations. It's up to everyone to read comments and make their own conclusions. I wouldn't expect spoon feeding direction or recipes. We will find a selection of responses and not everyone will agree. I'm sure there is no intention to confuse anyone, but there is room for discussion without argument.
For myself, I will give my own view on something but would never direct someone. We need to have a space for healthy debate without argument or conflicts.
As a moderator I will remove posts that are irrelevant and disruptive, but not those that are part of healthy debate such as Kasper's (and indeed my own). That is not confusing, misdirection or in contradiction of law of attraction or conscious creation. Instead it's mature discussion. My comment was around considering why you want something and there's nothing wrong with that. It's something I would ask myself before starting to manifest something as I feel it's important to me to know that. But that is my own approach, not advice, and not contradicting conscious creation.
As an example relating to the original post, it's entirely possible that the guy being discussed was fresh from a break up and not over his ex. It's also entirely possible for Olive to achieve a relationship with the guy (living in the end, mental diet, changing your chatter and so on) as Fizzy has pointed out. If, indeed that's what she really wants.
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Posted by Anita 7/27/2019 3:36 am | #23 |
PrettyFlamingo wrote:
Please remember everyone that this is a discussion board, and therefore we will find a variety of views and observations. It's up to everyone to read comments and make their own conclusions. I wouldn't expect spoon feeding direction or recipes. We will find a selection of responses and not everyone will agree. I'm sure there is no intention to confuse anyone, but there is room for discussion without argument.
For myself, I will give my own view on something but would never direct someone. We need to have a space for healthy debate without argument or conflicts.
As a moderator I will remove posts that are irrelevant and disruptive, but not those that are part of healthy debate such as Kasper's (and indeed my own). That is not confusing, misdirection or in contradiction of law of attraction or conscious creation. Instead it's mature discussion. My comment was around considering why you want something and there's nothing wrong with that. It's something I would ask myself before starting to manifest something as I feel it's important to me to know that. But that is my own approach, not advice, and not contradicting conscious creation.
As an example relating to the original post, it's entirely possible that the guy being discussed was fresh from a break up and not over his ex. It's also entirely possible for Olive to achieve a relationship with the guy (living in the end, mental diet, changing your chatter and so on) as Fizzy has pointed out.
I think that Every comment should be delete if have nothing with loa..its not helping what he wrote ..Its just do confusion and it create negative beliefs that her sp never change and she should be move on..I dont like if I read advice who has nothing with loa..in the past when I wanted advice and you commented from non loa perspective so I didnt feel better because this type advice I can read on other forum where people dont know loa..
Posted by PrettyFlamingo 7/27/2019 3:40 am | #24 |
You have the choice to be discerning, Anita, with what you take from discussion the same as everyone else does.
To reiterate, it's about debate and discussion.
Posted by fizzy 7/27/2019 8:25 am | #25 |
PrettyFlamingo wrote:
Please remember everyone that this is a discussion board, and therefore we will find a variety of views and observations. It's up to everyone to read comments and make their own conclusions. I wouldn't expect spoon feeding direction or recipes. We will find a selection of responses and not everyone will agree. I'm sure there is no intention to confuse anyone, but there is room for discussion without argument.
For myself, I will give my own view on something but would never direct someone. We need to have a space for healthy debate without argument or conflicts.
As a moderator I will remove posts that are irrelevant and disruptive, but not those that are part of healthy debate such as Kasper's (and indeed my own). That is not confusing, misdirection or in contradiction of law of attraction or conscious creation. Instead it's mature discussion. My comment was around considering why you want something and there's nothing wrong with that. It's something I would ask myself before starting to manifest something as I feel it's important to me to know that. But that is my own approach, not advice, and not contradicting conscious creation.
As an example relating to the original post, it's entirely possible that the guy being discussed was fresh from a break up and not over his ex. It's also entirely possible for Olive to achieve a relationship with the guy (living in the end, mental diet, changing your chatter and so on) as Fizzy has pointed out. If, indeed that's what she really wants.
“The forum exists for the purpose of discussing the Law of Attraction, and how we are utilising LOA teachings in our lives.
This forum is absolutely NOT a support group, hotline, crisis centre or substitute for emotional guidance outside of the scope of LOA teachings. The sole and definitive purpose of Veronica's forum is to celebrate and discuss with like-minded people how we each integrate LOA into our daily lives.”
This is copy and pasted word for word from the ‘Forum Intentions’ section. I think this sums up pretty clearly what should be allowed to be posted here and what shouldn’t be.
If you are a true believer in conscious creation, or LOA, there’s literally no room for debate on points that have no relevance to LOA. None. That makes no sense whatsoever and I’m not afraid to say so. You can’t teeter between ‘everyone and their behavior is your own creation’ and ‘he’s a horrible person, why do I want him?’. That’s super contradictory and it always will be. It will always keep people confused and trapped in their situations. Wondering what advice is in line with ‘LOA’ and what’s just a random opinion with no relevance to the subject of LOA.
When you are new and looking for more info on a certain subject, you don’t have the ability to discern very well. And I can’t believe that’s not obvious. Any debate we partake in should STILL be solely LOA-related. Kasper’s post clearly was not LOA-related and I’m not the only person saying so.
Also, why are people being made to question their desires? Everyone is free to desire what they want and to create it. The question of why someone wants something is also super irrelevant and also really isn’t in line with LOA. Anything and everything is possible and no one should be here judging people for what they want.
From your response PrettyFlamingo, it’s clear that you still truly don’t understand ‘Everyone is you pushed out’. And you’re clearly looking to change the original intention of the forum. The fact that a moderator is willing to do this is frustrating to me. I guess it’s time for me to leave.
Posted by fizzy 7/27/2019 8:30 am | #26 |
Anita wrote:
I think that Every comment should be delete if have nothing with loa..its not helping what he wrote ..Its just do confusion and it create negative beliefs that her sp never change and she should be move on..I dont like if I read advice who has nothing with loa..in the past when I wanted advice and you commented from non loa perspective so I didnt feel better because this type advice I can read on other forum where people dont know loa..
Yes, Anita, exactly! The original moderator here would’ve done just that. That’s obvious by what she posted. And that’s exactly how it should be in a forum intended for LOA discussion. You’re exactly correct with what you said about beliefs.
Posted by Selfloveiskey 7/27/2019 9:46 am | #27 |
Anita wrote:
PrettyFlamingo wrote:
Please remember everyone that this is a discussion board, and therefore we will find a variety of views and observations. It's up to everyone to read comments and make their own conclusions. I wouldn't expect spoon feeding direction or recipes. We will find a selection of responses and not everyone will agree. I'm sure there is no intention to confuse anyone, but there is room for discussion without argument.
For myself, I will give my own view on something but would never direct someone. We need to have a space for healthy debate without argument or conflicts.
As a moderator I will remove posts that are irrelevant and disruptive, but not those that are part of healthy debate such as Kasper's (and indeed my own). That is not confusing, misdirection or in contradiction of law of attraction or conscious creation. Instead it's mature discussion. My comment was around considering why you want something and there's nothing wrong with that. It's something I would ask myself before starting to manifest something as I feel it's important to me to know that. But that is my own approach, not advice, and not contradicting conscious creation.
As an example relating to the original post, it's entirely possible that the guy being discussed was fresh from a break up and not over his ex. It's also entirely possible for Olive to achieve a relationship with the guy (living in the end, mental diet, changing your chatter and so on) as Fizzy has pointed out.
I think that Every comment should be delete if have nothing with loa..its not helping what he wrote ..Its just do confusion and it create negative beliefs that her sp never change and she should be move on..I dont like if I read advice who has nothing with loa..in the past when I wanted advice and you commented from non loa perspective so I didnt feel better because this type advice I can read on other forum where people dont know loa..
👏🏻
Posted by Selfloveiskey 7/27/2019 9:49 am | #28 |
I agree so much. This is an loa forum not a oh well you can’t change it and if you try you don’t have respect for yourself forum. I am all about self love and care. Take the time to figure out what you really want and if it’s something you want to do it. As with Anita from my experience so many people on this forum told me to give up and honestly if I had listened to them I wouldn’t have gotten where I had gotten or the beliefs I have. It was my journey. I agree everyone decides for themselves but like telling someone something based on their current circumstances is also pushing their limited beliefs. Telling them that they are true. It is completely against loa. Because we are always manifesting even when we think we are not. We aren’t just sometimes and there are exceptions it’s everything. There are many times when I do pop back into this forum that I see non loa comments. So really this forum has lost its loa magic.
Posted by PrettyFlamingo 7/27/2019 10:06 am | #29 |
Selflove: Reread your fourth sentence. That is exactly what I have said.
Posted by fizzy 7/27/2019 10:19 am | #30 |
PrettyFlamingo wrote:
Selflove: Reread your fourth sentence. That is exactly what I have said.
This may be what you intend to say, but it’s not what you actually say to people. Often the comments I see from you are something along the lines of “Why would you want a person who does xyz...”. Which is again, completely ignoring the fact that everyone is you pushed out. Which is ignoring the fact that you create everything. Which is ignoring LOA and in no way relevant to LOA.
I’m not sure why you pointed out one sentence in her post but ignored the rest of what she, Anita, and I have said. I guess it’s all falling on deaf ears.
Selfloveiskey, if you see this, I completely agree. If nothing is going to change and it’s all being ignored and falling on deaf ears, I think there’s really no point in partaking in discussion here. Personally, I’ve found Reddit has some good conscious creation forums. All irrelevant comments are always deleted by moderators.