I'm in no position to help really. I'm still learning and getting better at this every day. I only suggest you read the books again and again. Test the law on other things. Really work on your self concept, but do it for you.

sadman wrote:

  Alright, it's time to let go of this whole SP thing. l love her, don't think I will forget her, she's my lovely wife and we spent the best honey moon ever in barbados, it feels like she's my wife but it feels like we are going thru a weird temporary separation right now. Not having my wife's support at this moment feels weird. 

 Letting go hurts, but holding on hurts more. I hope I can use what I learned to manifest some happiness in another way. 

 
If you had really learnt what you need to know in your attempt to have the relationship with your SP, WHICH IS THE SAME PRINCIPLE FOR EVERYTHING, you wouldn't even be thinking about giving up. You already said that you'd never consciously manifested a thing. The first thing I ever said to you was when did you decide you'd failed? How do you know that you didn't do enough to plant the seed of your desire in your subconscious mind and that it will manifest in its own time? Now you are constantly negating it, but it is you deciding that you've failed. There is nothing and nobody against you but you.

You seem to have set some sort of a time limit by which it had to happen or it never would and have probably been continuously aware that it hasn't happened yet which is only going to delay it. Where did you get the idea that there is a time limit?

I'm interested to know who you have been listening to and what they have been telling you to do that has given you ideas that make you think you've failed. If you had been reading and listening to Neville and following his advice only and not been distracted by some loa people who talk a lot of rubbish and can easily mess you up, I don't think you'd be so ready to give up.

One of Neville's big things was persistence. Check out his lecture Brazen Impudence. You have to be clear on exactly what you want, focus on it, live in the end of having it, assume that it is yours, be patient, have faith, and persist until it is yours in the 3D. The current 3D is dead, it's old news, and based on old thoughts and beliefs. Your thoughts/imaginal acts precede the change in the 3D because they are what is creating the 3D. You are the operant power. You are the creator of your reality. Nobody has free will in your reality but you. The other important thing is everyone is you pushed out. If you start seeing the SP or anyone else as behaving in the way you want them to, don't negate it by saying or thinking negative things about the person's past behaviour or complain about them or the old story you have about them, but stay focussed on the version of them you want to experience, eventually they have to conform to that. You said you have a hard time visualising. What about daydreaming about things being just the way you want them to be?

It would probably be a good idea to take a break from the SP whilst you're feeling so depressed. It would be a good idea to test this out on other things that aren't important to you so you can have some success and get more faith.

If you've got an old negative story about relationships or your own lack of self-worth or anything else that could be getting in your way, work on changing that. Don't throw your power away. You are not a helpless victim. You are more powerful than you know. Put yourself up on that pedestal too.

I've read everything you've written, and if I knew why you put a time limit on this I wouldn't be asking why. Why is there a time limit? What is the sense of urgency? Without knowing more, I would say it really looks like this time limit you've imposed on yourself has been the problem, especially as it got closer to the end of the time limit and nothing had happened yet.

Since you mentioned it, I think it is ridiculous for anyone to waste one second of their time trying to manifest a text message. That is an entirely different manifestation and has nothing to do with a relationship. It is living in the end of getting a text message. If you focus on the relationship, some form of contact has to happen, not the other way around.

You talked about changing your thoughts and not seeing results in the 3D. Did you expect the 3D to change instantly as soon as you started changing your thoughts? Like any habit, lasting change can take some time before it becomes the new habit.

Have those books and videos to do with getting an ex back or SP within a certain short period of time got anything to do with this time limit thing? That might possibly seem to succeed temporarily, if it happens at all, and I haven't seen much evidence of that, but it also usually fails in the long term because nothing has changed so the same mistakes are made, the same old reactionary behaviours recur, leading to another breakup.

I know from personal experience that Neville's teachings are true and they do work, but some manifestations take longer than others.

I married an SP, long before I ever heard of Neville, by imagining I was married to him and wearing an imaginary wedding ring. During most of the time leading up to that we had minimal contact and were in different countries thousands of miles apart, and it didn't happen overnight. I had left London and knew I wouldn't be returning to London where he was for some time, and I never felt a need to put a time limit on it. I just focussed on the end result. Neville married the person he wanted to by following his own teachings (his second wife), many people in his audiences did the same, and there are so many other people who have been succeeding at this. I was married to that SP for many years. Why should you or anybody else be any different? My current SP has been taking more time and I know why, and in the meantime I have learnt some important things I didn't know before that I may not have learnt otherwise. Instead of planning my suicide because it hasn't happened in the 3D yet, I have been creating it to be the most ideal relationship imaginable and just the way I want it to be.

The first book I ever read on this sort of subject, and it has nothing to do specifically with SPs, it's more general, was The Magic of Believing by Claude Bristol. I was 15 years old. I had amazing, magical results just by following what the author said he did in ways that were meaningful to me. Why don't you read that? It doesn't go as far as Neville, but it's still a great book.

I really want to see you succeed and not feel like killing yourself. So far it seems to me like you've got the idea that your manifestation has to happen in a certain amount of time, you put that pressure on yourself, and because it hasn't happened yet it means that you've failed and it never will. Wrong. There may be an underlying reason that is a lot deeper than that to do with negative beliefs about relationships or about not being loved in the past. That was a big one for me. My parents treated me like they hated me and like I was worthless.The only way you can fail is to give up. If you have the desire it is because you are meant to experience it. I don't mean to sound like I think you must continue with this because it doesn't matter to me either way. It's what you want, not what I want or don't want for you. We are all using the law of assumption constantly, consciously or unconsciously, and right now you are assuming you've failed, and that's that, end of story. If you believe that, you're right.

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  I didn't know that quote from christ bears our sins, very cool. Never saw Neville talking about getting a sp, only the little story example in the law and the promise. He and his wife looked like they already liked each other but the obstacle was that he was still legally married so that seemed different. 

  
  My main problem now is the depression, it's incapacitating me more and more, and I feel like every cell in my body is begging for life to end. This depression doesn't come from the sp situation, even though it really, really aggravates it. She was a big source of support for me in the past. If I wasn't feeling like this right now I wouldn't be bothered by time... well not that much anyway. A key symptom of the depression is that seeing a way out of this has become almost impossible, even if I know all the right things to do. 

   Damn, I appreciate the effort and feel guilty at the same time 

   Yes I did read everything. Thank you. The time limit thing is just that I might not be alive for very long, that's what it feels like anyway. I've been doing all in my power to feel better and transcend all of this, with Neville's techniques and other things, meditation, therapy, spirituality, connections, all of that. There are still things I wanted so at the same time I decided to use law of assumption to get them anyway, assuming everything would be ok and bad feelings wouldn't be an issue anymore. I'm at a point where every day is a struggle just to remain alive and sane. I haven't been repeating this story on my own but I'm just saying it while I type this to give some clarity. Just remaining alive has been very, very difficult, let alone getting out of this and feeling at least neutral and functional. Things are getting to a point where as much as I try, staying or leaving no longer feel like a choice. There's no point in the things I want to happen 3 months from now if my state gets worst and I'm no longer around. It will be a package delivered to no one. 


 Some time ago I was thinking about that, that what you want is meant for you anyway, the desire is already a seed with the means of its completion. Made me wonder if a lot of this whole process isn't just about not getting in our own ways with negative thinking and compromises. That's what Neville said anyway in a book I don't remember. I was here thinking about what you also posted because before I knew any manifestation stuff I was also thinking about my SP future, us being together, being at the beach together kicking sand in each other's faces, receiving each other coming home with lots of love and all that. I was also doing that naturally without knowing it, but I also started to think a lot of negative things eventually and goofed it all up.


 Edit just to make it really sure this time, the time limit thing is about suicide due to depression and anxiety making me spiral down and feel worst, making outside circunstances get worst as well because I can't manage to do anything and going on a loop. 

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