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7/27/2019 10:34 am  #31


Re: Is it possible? Help with my block!

fizzy wrote:

PrettyFlamingo wrote:

Selflove: Reread your fourth sentence. That is exactly what I have said.

This may be what you intend to say, but itā€™s not what you actually say to people. Often the comments I see from you are something along the lines of ā€œWhy would you want a person who does xyz...ā€. Which is again, completely ignoring the fact that everyone is you pushed out. Which is ignoring the fact that you create everything. Which is ignoring LOA and in no way relevant to LOA.

Iā€™m not sure why you pointed out one sentence in her post but ignored the rest of what she, Anita, and I have said. I guess itā€™s all falling on deaf ears.

Selfloveiskey, if you see this, I completely agree. If nothing is going to change and itā€™s all being ignored and falling on deaf ears, I think thereā€™s really no point in partaking in discussion here. Personally, Iā€™ve found Reddit has some good conscious creation forums. All irrelevant comments are always deleted by moderators.

Agreed. Iā€™ve seen the same comments for years heck even on my old posts ( some not here)  and I did end up getting my guy back more then once. Obviously I still had stuff to learn but I was told time and again why would you want him back get someone better. But yet they got mad when I questioned loa? Doesnā€™t make sense. Now he actually said a lot of things I visualized and has been so sweet and loving to me for a long time. I remember when I felt horrible and those comments just didnā€™t help and made me doubt loa more because it seemed like there was always a catch. It didnā€™t help me,  strangely enough when I stepped away for awhile and was on my own that did more then here lol But yeah there is no point to doing this if they donā€™t listen. I ll have to check out reddit. I do think moderators here have favorites and they do get rid of the comments they donā€™t like that doesnā€™t fit their beliefs.

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7/27/2019 11:04 am  #32


Re: Is it possible? Help with my block!

Selfloveiskey wrote:

Agreed. Iā€™ve seen the same comments for years heck even on my old posts ( some not here)  and I did end up getting my guy back more then once. Obviously I still had stuff to learn but I was told time and again why would you want him back get someone better. But yet they got mad when I questioned loa? Doesnā€™t make sense. Now he actually said a lot of things I visualized and has been so sweet and loving to me for a long time. I remember when I felt horrible and those comments just didnā€™t help and made me doubt loa more because it seemed like there was always a catch. It didnā€™t help me,  strangely enough when I stepped away for awhile and was on my own that did more then here lol But yeah there is no point to doing this if they donā€™t listen. I ll have to check out reddit. I do think moderators here have favorites and they do get rid of the comments they donā€™t like that doesnā€™t fit their beliefs.

Congrats on your successes!

 

7/27/2019 11:32 am  #33


Re: Is it possible? Help with my block!

thedreamer11 wrote:

You have a beautiful mind FizzyĀ 

"what this forum was made to discuss, can be confusing to people just starting out in learning to consciously create."

Very true, when I first meet Loa I did become very confused with this mixed approach ( materialism with Loa).

Wow, thatā€™s nice of you to say! Thanks

 

7/27/2019 12:58 pm  #34


Re: Is it possible? Help with my block!

I haven't even looked at this forum for over a month and probably won't again, but this has disintegrated into an attack on PrettyFlamingo, and that's not right or justified. She's the only person who has done any real moderation on here for years, and she's been more than fair. Nobody else has cared enough to even be bothered. PF has come a very long way. I understand what she means. It's got nothing to do with the concept of everybody being you pushed out, which I fully agree with. Neither she nor anybody else has said it's not possible for the OP to manifest a relationship with the person in question.

This forum doesn't say so, but it seems to presuppose that members are adults of a certain level of maturity and mental health, but that clearly hasn't been the case with many, some of whom it would be irresponsible to advise in a forum such as this just because they asked. (I'm not saying this applies to the OP.)

I've seen it said elsewhere that people had more success in Neville's time because there wasn't an internet, nor any social media, nor any forums full of people focussing on all sorts of lack and limitation and continuously expressing their fears, doubts, and other negativity, and I couldn't agree more. Reading that sort of thing, especially on a regular basis, can really bring you down after a while, no matter how strong your own faith and beliefs can be.  You'd be better off getting a few good books and investing your time and energy in studying and applying them on your own.


The first man to raise a fist is the man who has run out of ideas.
 

7/27/2019 1:07 pm  #35


Re: Is it possible? Help with my block!

Cynthia wrote:

I haven't even looked at this forum for over a month and probably won't again, but this has disintegrated into an attack on PrettyFlamingo, and that's not right or justified. She's the only person who has done any real moderation on here for years, and she's been more than fair. Nobody else has cared enough to even be bothered. PF has come a very long way. I understand what she means. It's got nothing to do with the concept of everybody being you pushed out, which I fully agree with. Neither she nor anybody else has said it's not possible for the OP to manifest a relationship with the person in question.

ā€œI don't understand why you would even want a guy who after he is intimate with you disappears then tells you he wants someone else???  You only had 2 dates ( if Im reading that right) you didn't even know him but you know now he is not a good guy...let this loser go   sorry but someone had to say it... he just showed you he is NOT into you and only wanted one thing.he  got it now he is MIA......and you still want him??? lordy people come on...ā€

Above is Kasperā€™s comment copy and pasted. PF said she strongly agrees with what Kasper has said here. How does this fall in line with the concept of ā€˜Everyone is you pushed outā€™? If PF strongly agrees with this viewpoint, it DOES go against ā€˜Everyone is you pushed outā€™. And thatā€™s why the concept was brought up.

Iā€™m not sure why you are viewing this as an attack on PF. All we are saying is things that are clearly not in line with conscious creation, which Kasperā€™s comment clearly isnā€™t, should not be allowed here. And honestly, the fact that a moderator on a conscious creation forum ā€˜strongly agreesā€™ with such a comment is a bit frustrating. Iā€™m not sugar coating that.

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7/27/2019 1:19 pm  #36


Re: Is it possible? Help with my block!

I'm sitting in the pub with my two best friends now and interrupting my time with them to respond. I agree with Kasper's sentiment as applied to myself and that is the approach I would take if it applied to me. In no way am I advising Olive to take that approach. I personally would not invest time on a person I'd known for a short time who had disappeared as I wouldn't be able to make a judgment about them after two encounters. Others may want to do things differently and that is their right. It's important to decide for yourself what's worth spending time on. That is the point I'm making.

It's also possible for Olive to manifest a relationship with this bloke if that is what she wants and I have never said otherwise.

In no way have I given advice.

If we disagree with one another please make these points without attempting to "call out" others, including myself, as there is room for discussion without this.

I'm now getting back to my mates and my wine, so have a lovely Saturday evening everyone.


Be a flamingo in a flock of pigeons.
 

7/27/2019 1:19 pm  #37


Re: Is it possible? Help with my block!

fizzy wrote:

Cynthia wrote:

I haven't even looked at this forum for over a month and probably won't again, but this has disintegrated into an attack on PrettyFlamingo, and that's not right or justified. She's the only person who has done any real moderation on here for years, and she's been more than fair. Nobody else has cared enough to even be bothered. PF has come a very long way. I understand what she means. It's got nothing to do with the concept of everybody being you pushed out, which I fully agree with. Neither she nor anybody else has said it's not possible for the OP to manifest a relationship with the person in question.

ā€œI don't understand why you would even want a guy who after he is intimate with you disappears then tells you he wants someone else???  You only had 2 dates ( if Im reading that right) you didn't even know him but you know now he is not a good guy...let this loser go   sorry but someone had to say it... he just showed you he is NOT into you and only wanted one thing.he  got it now he is MIA......and you still want him??? lordy people come on...ā€

Above is Kasperā€™s comment copy and pasted. PF said she strongly agrees with what Kasper has said here. How does this fall in line with the concept of ā€˜Everyone is you pushed outā€™? If PF strongly agrees with this viewpoint, it DOES go against ā€˜Everyone is you pushed outā€™. And thatā€™s why the concept was brought up.

Iā€™m not sure why you are viewing this as an attack on PF. All we are saying is things that are clearly not in line with conscious creation, which Kasperā€™s comment clearly isnā€™t, should not be allowed here. And honestly, the fact that a moderator on a conscious creation forum ā€˜strongly agreesā€™ with such a comment is a bit frustrating. Iā€™m not sugar coating that.

Honestly If Cynthia views this as an attack on PF she needs to view her many many posts saying ā€œdisregard this persons advice and this ones and this ones advice all you need is Nevilleā€ instead of saying Neville works for her she decides to say that or something like it about anyone elseā€™s advice. Thatā€™s belittling everyone else is it not?

 

7/27/2019 1:38 pm  #38


Re: Is it possible? Help with my block!

PrettyFlamingo wrote:

I'm sitting in the pub with my two best friends now and interrupting my time with them to respond. I agree with Kasper's sentiment as applied to myself and that is the approach I would take if it applied to me. In no way am I advising Olive to take that approach. I personally would not invest time on a person I'd known for a short time who had disappeared as I wouldn't be able to make a judgment about them after two encounters. Others may want to do things differently and that is their right. It's important to decide for yourself what's worth spending time on. That is the point I'm making.

But even just saying that you canā€™t make a judgment about the person after two encounters is a failure to recognize that YOU create them. Thereā€™s no judgment to be made. They donā€™t have their own personality. YOU create their personality and have the ability to change it ā€” utterly and completely. Thatā€™s exactly what ā€˜Everyone is you pushed outā€™ MEANS. There is no other meaning to it. So that being said, do you now see why weā€™ve been saying to you what we have? We are trying to get you to see that even the way you, yourself, would approach this is not in line with conscious creation. And thatā€™s fine. But when you comment on someoneā€™s post who is looking for LOA advice, this isnā€™t helpful to them. In fact, itā€™s confusing. Four people have told you this now.

Iā€™m sorry if you feel attacked, you are the one we are all bringing up because itā€™s YOUR responses that four of us disagree with.

Also sorry if you felt you needed to take time out from being with friends to respond. The beauty of a forum is you have the freedom to respond any time you can.

 

7/27/2019 1:40 pm  #39


Re: Is it possible? Help with my block!

fizzy wrote:

PrettyFlamingo wrote:

I'm sitting in the pub with my two best friends now and interrupting my time with them to respond. I agree with Kasper's sentiment as applied to myself and that is the approach I would take if it applied to me. In no way am I advising Olive to take that approach. I personally would not invest time on a person I'd known for a short time who had disappeared as I wouldn't be able to make a judgment about them after two encounters. Others may want to do things differently and that is their right. It's important to decide for yourself what's worth spending time on. That is the point I'm making.

But even just saying that you canā€™t make a judgment about the person after two encounters is a failure to recognize that YOU create them. Thereā€™s no judgment to be made. They donā€™t have their own personality. YOU create their personality and have the ability to change it ā€” utterly and completely. Thatā€™s exactly what ā€˜Everyone is you pushed outā€™ MEANS. There is no other meaning to it. So that being said, do you now see why weā€™ve been saying to you what we have? We are trying to get you to see that even the way you, yourself, would approach this is not in line with conscious creation. And thatā€™s fine. But when you comment on someoneā€™s post who is looking for LOA advice, this isnā€™t helpful to them. In fact, itā€™s confusing. Four people have told you this now.

Iā€™m sorry if you feel attacked, you are the one we are all bringing up because itā€™s YOUR responses that four of us disagree with.

Also sorry if you felt you needed to take time out from being with friends to respond. The beauty of a forum is you have the freedom to respond any time you can.

Agreed

 

7/27/2019 4:09 pm  #40


Re: Is it possible? Help with my block!

"It's also possible for Olive to manifest a relationship with this bloke if that is what she wants and I have never said otherwise."
But the blockage is her creation, if she dont solve it, she will always meet the pattern again in anothers peoples, treating it as an external problem is treating the symptomsĀ and not the cause.Ā 
Ā 

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