PrettyFlamingo wrote:

Most people think it means that what you imagine and assume of an individual becomes real of that person. But Neville said that though we do influence others we should choose the state of the wish fulfilled. Neville said that people will play their part to help you physically fulfil the state of the wish fulfilled. He gave several examples, one of them was when he wanted to get his brothers tickets to an opera and it came about by him being rewarded for confronting a con man. Did Neville imagine a con man? Did he assume the man was a con man? He imagined the end result and it just so happened that the con man  unknowingly help Neville get what he wants. He played his part, the role of a con man, but it ultimately helped Neville.In another story, Neville needed tickets to leave Barbados but he didn't try to influence anyone but by living in the state of the wish fulfilled he said he unknowingly influenced a man to cancel his trip which allowed the ticketmaster to give him a ticket. And this is the same passage where he said "everyone is yourself pushed out", but he wasn't referring to individuals being exactly what you assume of them. Instead he meant it more in the sense that people in general will help get what you want and act in their own states/ self-concept to do so, they act in harmony with the state you embody.But didn't he say it's not up to you to decide who will do what and how they will do it, instead he says to just embody the state of the wish fulfilled. When you live in the state of the wish fulfilled, people will act in ways that help you whether you know it or not, whether they know it or not because they are still playing their part - like the con man and the ticketmaster doing their jobs and not knowing who it would benefit. But though you don't see it there is still a bridge of incidents taking place to help you, but it couldn't have happened if you weren't in the state of the wish fulfilled, thus all that action in the outer world to support you is "you pushed out" - more like the state of the wish fulfilled pushed out and made real.

So you are saying assume the state of your desire and other people will act in ways that will help your goal to manifest. Yes, I agree, but what does that have to do with what we were discussing?

You said you don’t agree with people blaming themselves for another person’s horrible behavior towards them. I agree that blaming yourself isn’t helpful, but you should realize you manifested it and take responsibility. If other people are only acting to help lead us to a manifestation of our state at all times, then logically, you manifested their bad behavior by assuming a negative state, right? You can’t say that only happens with positive states and negative states ‘don’t count’. We are manifesting all the time and we are always in a state. Therefore, by your definition, the action in the outer world to support your negative state is ‘you pushed out’.

You may not have consciously or deliberately manifested someone treating you horribly, but regardless, you still did. That’s the reason why you then have the ability to change their behavior.

Last edited by fizzy (6/17/2019 8:43 am)