fizzy wrote:

excalibar wrote:

To you, what’s the difference between expectation and belief? Is expectation like ‘I expect to move my arm’ and so I do? You use expectation instead of believing but right now I like believing..

Yes, you don’t have to sit there and think about moving your arm, it’s just automatic. A lot of our expectations are like that. Someone explained it to me as you expect to be a human being, and so you are. So at the core of everything, there was expectation. I think belief systems are things we buy into that determine a lot of what we expect. They may or may not be entirely accurate. For example, you can believe that you aren’t creating your reality (we all know someone who believes this), but that doesn’t change the truth that you are. I think beliefs can direct our expectations in a way. Do you see what I mean?

The John ‘followers’ that I’ve spoken to don’t seem to be very fond of the word ‘belief’. I can see why, but I’m still learning as well, and still have yet to fully understand everything, myself. As I’ve said, I’m still not fully there yet, either! But words are just words. If you’re more comfortable with ‘belief’, I don’t see why you can’t use it. It’s definitely on the scale of expectation.

Where can I find these John followers? I see what what you mean, but it also worries me that just because you believe something doesn’t make it true. I don’t know how to expect my sp being what I want him to be with me. I haven’t even heard of steps I can take that will build up that expectation and therefore manifest it. Where can I go to learn how to build expectation? Also doesn’t any method work as you said? So if I expect (which I don’t yet understand what you mean by that) beliefs to manifest than it should perfectly all the time right?

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fizzy wrote:

excalibar wrote:

So what your saying is, if I visualize to the point of belief that my sp is everything I want him to be with me only, than I will automatically expect that and thereby manifest exactly that by both believing and expecting?

Yes, you can absolutely do that

Ok I’ll do that, how do you do it? It’s hard to stop asking when there are no limits or rules because everything works. Maybe I should stick with what I know and manifest my sp being my boyfriend and than study more into John Paolucci’s teaching? How can I expect that I’ll manifest my sp faster than the rate I am going and actually manifest that?

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fizzy wrote:

excalibar wrote:

Knowing I am everything does help loads even though I don’t know exactly what that means in the full sense. I would like to experience what that’s like. What’s your favourite Neville technique? I use visualization and living in the end in imagination which automatically happens when I visualize I think. Until I get my anxiety under control that’s all I can really do except for thinking small thoughts like “I’ll have to tell rr this” when it comes to living in the wish fulfilled in my imagination, what should I feel besides the senses like touching etc? Should I feel relief and accomplished? People says it’s not the emotion but isn’t feeling relief and accomplished emotions? What should I feel? I get so confused with this... do you still believe that you don’t need self love to manifest someone’s love for you romantically? I posted a question on reddit I’m the Neville section and one comment was you should love yourself because of you pushed out. Those answers didn’t help at all..... and I am beginning to think that visualizing won’t build the beliefs I need in order to manifest my person which is a bit of a problem. but I know that’s wrong. I just haven’t done it enough yet. Any tips for this?

I’ve already told you everything I know. Take it or leave it. I’m not sure why you’re asking me about self love, when I’ve already explained that you can eventually get to the point where you can manipulate reality just like you would moving your arm. Do you need to love yourself before you’re able to move your arm? If not, there’s your answer. I’ve also said emotions have no creating power. I don’t ‘follow’ Neville’s viewpoint of reality anymore. I just like his methods.

I know Cynthia has made plenty of posts on here about Neville and about his methods. If you are interested in learning about his methods, my suggestion is to re-look at her posts.

I’m seeing recent posts on here saying that you can ‘repel’ your desire. That’s difficult to read, because people are coming on here seeking knowledge and already being given limits by other responders. Again, every method of manifesting is correct and is valid. But once you start saying ‘you have to do this or you will repel your desire’..... no. I’ve been reminded of why I left here in the first place. It’s just not for me.

In regards to repel I would say that is true in a sense. Like attracts like that’s the law we are what we think about. So if you are feeling needy and all that stuff is that energy gonna attract something that is opposite level? No. Because most likely your beliefs line up with the negative feelings. There are instances where people feel crappy and manifest something but those few times they deep down believe they can have it. That it’s there. Loa isn’t about want so if you feel needy don’t really beleive well then the law which is always working will deliver just that . So really you are attracting what you don’t want but the universe just sees you match with it. Since it’s somethinf we don’t want then we know that type of belief and energy attracts that so repel isn’t exactly a word I would use but I’m guessing that that is a basis to what I just said about attracting what we don’t want instead of what we do. In regards to self love . I feel self love helps remove negative beliefs. It’s an easy way to do it if you have a lot of them especially because most of the time they involve what you feel you are worth what you feel you deserve what you believe you can have etc. so when you focus and do things to love yourself you feel better you start to dissolve those beliefs that may have been blocking what you have been wanting to attract. Some people believe you don’t need self love to do that. Ok sure you do you maybe you don’t have as many or any negative beliefs about yourself that are enough to block your desired manifestation. That’s you. For me personally I believe that you need to love yourself before being in a relationship because you can’t expect someone to do everything for you. It’s a good foundation to build a supportive healthy relationship but hey that’s my belief about relationships so for me that’s why that stands as well as I deserve to feel great and put myself on my pedastool.

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fizzy wrote:

excalibar wrote:

I agree that with you,  but don’t you “repel” your desire by not believing and expecting it to be your reality soon, or is already? From my current understanding, it’s only you that can repel your desire by not believing it or something? I would love to manipulate reality just as easily as I move my arms. I guess the only thing that’s is stopping me from doing that is me by believing and expecting that’s it’s not that easy and more importantly stressing myself out over it? And I could manipulate my reality just as easily as I move my arm with any technique. Doesn’t matter if it’s from John or Neville.

It’s not about attracting or repelling anything. “Law of attraction” is a set of beliefs created by you that you can either choose to buy into or not. It’s only “the way things work” if you make it so in reality. Every possibility is already in existence. All you’re doing when manifesting is making it visible to yourself. At its core, manifesting something is as simple as moving your arm. That’s why I use that example, to try to convey how simple manifesting something you want actually is. But if you say “I need to love myself, I need to let go and detach, I need to live in the end, etc BEFORE I’m able to move my arm”.... well, since you are everything and you create the rules, that’s what you will experience. You place limits on yourself by making it so that you must do xyz before you can have what you want.

Again, manipulating reality just as you would move your arm is very advanced. I’m not saying it’s a point you will get to anytime soon, maybe not even in this lifetime. But, that doesn’t mean it’s impossibie. It’s just a good example to use to show you the simplicity of manifesting in its purest form and to give you the full picture of how powerful we are. Using methods to manifest makes things much easier because most people are not at that level of confidence in who they are. I’m not there, either.

You said ‘not in this lifetime’ do you believe in reincarnation or something of that sort? When I think about it, I don’t need to be at the level where manifesting is just as easy as moving my arm to manifest something huge I want in my life. No one needs to be at that level before they can manifest miracles for themselves and others. I just wonder how much easier and faster my manifesting would be if I truly believed that manifesting is just as easy as moving my arm.

fizzy wrote:

excalibar wrote:

Some things I can manifest super fast. Within minutes just by thinking about it lightly. It would be super cool if I could do that with everything I want exactly. Sometimes I’ll just ask how to do something lol. Like for manifesting faster I put the question out there but I haven’t gotten a clear answer yet to that. I also want to change my appearance with Neville’s techniques and such. I want to change my body and face without surgery. Idk if you still practice living in the end to manifest something but when you did how did you do it? How did it feel? How did you get yourself into it? What made it easy and natural and how did you stay in that feeling? Feeling is knowing right? Is that what Neville meant buy that? Can you manifest someone thinking something like “I love her so much”? I mean once I manifest my guy telling everyone how much he truly loves me, why would he lie and not actually think that?

All of these questions have been answered somewhere on the Neville subreddit. They even spell out how exactly to do his methods on there.

As far as your guy lying... you create him, so it’s up to you whether he’s lying or not.

He would only be lying if I believed that to be true about him? I ask this because he isn’t honest with me at all right now and I really value honesty. Also, the Neville subreddit has a lot of different ideas so far, from what I’ve seen....

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