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5/07/2018 2:36 am  #31


Re: It's been so long

I'm feeling very lost and confused and have hit rock bottom with my depression.

I've tried thinking positively and living as if but all it does is make me miss him/remember the good times and it breaks my heart. As you know I've tried manifesting back for over a year, around 1.5 years. Deep down I know he will be back and now is not the right time but it is really upsetting me. 

My question is- what if I was to focus on the negative parts of him as it would more likely help me to move on? For example if I focus on his abusive tendencies, all of the cruel things he said, rather than the romantic positive stuff, what would happen? Would he feel this? Would he change as a response and be pushed away even more?

Please help because no matter what I do I'm struggling. I cried myself to sleep last night and cry almost every day. The pain is too much to bare sometimes and I think about wanting to die regularly.

 

5/07/2018 3:25 am  #32


Re: It's been so long

Focussing on the negatives is only going to bring you more negativity. If you really believed that you and your SP were going to be together, if you really believed the relationship was yours and would come about when the time was right, you wouldn't be crying and depressed like you've just described. You may need to get some professional help for your depression.


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5/07/2018 3:32 am  #33


Re: It's been so long

I have been going to counselling.

I am just not so sure that positive thoughts will definitely bring him back (I've tried) and also there are not many success stories. If we look at the percentage of success stories it is quite low and hard to know whether they are a result of loa or just life. I know you manifested but it took years. I'm not as convinced about it all in general as I have previously been. I've given it my all.

I literally don't know what else to do. I've prayed on top of using loa techniques. I've done revision as I get the feeling he is very mad at me. I've spoken to psychics.  It's not about being negative it's about being realistic. On top of that sometimes on loa forums (not this one) people give non loa advice and it's frustrating. We're told we can have anything we desire yet we're told something different sometimes.

If I do think of his as abusive what would be the outcome? Will he become more abusive?

Thanks for your comment it is an interesting discussion.

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5/07/2018 3:56 am  #34


Re: It's been so long

It didn't take me years, and if it would have done, that's not a bad thing anyway. Patience is a virtue that most people don't seem to have any more. It's more than positive thinking, and it isn't pretending, either. It's doing what Neville called 'living in the end of the wish fulfilled.'  It only takes a few minutes, done before sleep or at another time when you can get into a sleepy, drowsy receptive state, and you imagine your desire like you already have it now, making it as real as possible, like you're already living it in your mind right now. The rest of the time you go about your business, living your life.
Imagining your SP is abusive, or more abusive, is a very negative thing to do and will make him more abusive toward you because that would be how you are seeing him. You'd be projecting that out onto him and expecting it of him. Why wouldn't you want to use your imagination, which creates reality, more productively and imagine him treating you very well and the two of you being hapoy together?

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5/07/2018 4:05 am  #35


Re: It's been so long

Thank you. It's because I've been imagining us happy together and every day that goes by and there is no contact or every time he chose to ignore me or date someone else breaks my heart and it's not healthy for me anymore. He was not perfect in any shape or form but he  was for me so I've forgiven him, sent love, treated him like a king when we met up but he still didn't treat me good enough.

Many people don't support me wanting him because he has done some very horrid things to me. So I've started to think rather than forgiving all the time and loving him for the times he was loving (a long time ago now) I'd be better off thinking about the person he is now. Maybe that would help mE fall out of love with him. Because being in love but not seeing him hurts like hell. Being in love but him ignoring me hurts. Him making out that I'm horrible whilst I sit her and send him love really hurts. I feel like I've given him 1.5 years to respond to my love in a loving way but he hasn't. Instead he's been cold and cruel and has cost me thousands of pounds in legal fees before telling me he is going to date someone else as a way of moving on from me.

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5/07/2018 4:18 am  #36


Re: It's been so long

You've been paying too much attention to the time it's been taking, almost like you're watching the clock and timing it, and if you really believed the relationship was yours, time wouldn't bother you because you'd already feel like you had the relationship.  You've also expressed a lot of negative feelings about him. I think you still have a lot of negative expectations of him from the past. If you want the future to be different, you've got to focus on it being the way you want it to be, not the way it's been up until now, completely disregarding the current reality. How did he cost you thousands of pounds in legal fees?


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5/07/2018 4:22 am  #37


Re: It's been so long

That make sure sense.

He pulled out of a house we had just bought together, meant a new mortgage and cancelling old one. He also cancelled the wedding without reimbursing any of the costs.

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5/07/2018 4:23 am  #38


Re: It's been so long

I need to imagine him having my best interest at heart then and looking after and caring for me?

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5/07/2018 11:34 am  #39


Re: It's been so long

Berry wrote:

I need to imagine him having my best interest at heart then and looking after and caring for me?

You need to care for you and have your own best interests at heart and not rely on somebody else to provide your happiness or give them the power to take it away from you. You also seem to be obsessing over getting your SP back, but without any real belief that you can do this. After the incidents you mentioned that cost you thousands of pounds in legal fees, that has probably given your confidence and self-esteem, if you had them before, quite a knock. It would be a lot better for you if you'd put him on the back burner for a bit and worked on getting your self esteem and confidence back. Then you can approach this from a point of power and strength rather than from weakness and neediness, neither of the latter two being at all attractive. My mother had low self-esteem, but she seemed better in that respect as long as my father was in the picture. He had always put her on a pedestal, given her her way at all times, and had been her yes man and enforcer, and this seemed to make her feel better about herself, to some degree anyway. However, he died suddenly, and she reverted back to being a needy child, and I was the only one left who would put up with her, after she'd managed to push most of her friends away, and I was the only one of her other family members who had ever been close to her or cared at all about her, and it was very draining to be around her and to try to make her feel better, which never did any good because only she could do that for herself but refused to even try. Also, judging by what you've said, it wasn't long ago you were calling your SP a 'sweetheart' but since then have said he's abusive, so I think you've got conflicting feelings about him that you'd need to resolve..


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5/07/2018 12:23 pm  #40


Re: It's been so long

He's both. He can be the sweetest most romantic man. Or he could be abuisve. That's why I'm so stuck and contused. If I focus on him being sweet I miss him and find myself depressed. If I focus on his abusive tendencies to help me heal and feel we weren't meant to be I will push him away (loa says so).
I'm confused. I love him regardless of everything because not everyone is perfect. I still want him and only him. I still want to manifest him. I love him!

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