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Scarlet11 wrote:
And I also believe psychics uses the power of suggestion. It is related with LOA of course.
They tell you that something will happen in your life, you believe it, and it happens. You attracted that.
That may be true in some cases, but in my case I didn't believe what I was told, and the things happened anyway.
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LotsOfLove wrote:
Hello everyone!
Do you believe in someone predicting your future even though you believe you create your own reality? Just curious what everyone believes!
The ideas behind LoA are pretty crazy by the standards of the conventional world. So I don't see why believing in psychics wouldn't be any crazier. I think there are some genuine psychics out there but I don't believe what they say is destiny - more like the probable outcome from the energy/ state in me they sense (assuming they are indeed real).
Actually, wasn't Abdullah a psychic in the Neville Goddard books? Abdullah said he knew Neville would come and that Neville had a specific destiny, that he and Neville were in China together over a thousand years ago.
But how does that fit in with creating your own reality? Do we even have any choice or are we predetermined? I feel like it's a little bit of both. I'm an avatar of God in a video game, through this avatar perhaps there are some things I cannot change - otherwise it would spoil the game I wanted to play. Bashar and some spiritual people talk about how we chose to incarnate into this life from a spiritual realm, to take on human limitations and explore certain themes, to expand beyond the limitation. We are free to decide how we explore those themes, but we predestined ourselves to explore them, creation of this life also happens not consciously but we also created aspects of it before our birth. So it's like we're in an open-world action/ adventure game, with freedom to move and plan, but the freedom is limited by the design intentionally from designing it before the game starts. So though the avatar (us) seems fated, the fate is an illusion from the freedom to create the design, we lament how fated we are but what if we just momentarily decided to forget how free we are to enjoy the game?
Interesting stuff:
Staceylouuu91x wrote:
I believe that tarot readers and psychics pick up on your energy, so what they say is true but it's not set in stone.
That's what I think too. Tarot can be really fun though so sometimes I like to do online Tarot. The problem is that the meaning of the cards can so vast and vague that it can fit anything and everything in your life. So even if it's BS, it can help you understand your own state by deciphering the meaning you give to things and why you give it that meaning.
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fizzy wrote:
Psychics are still you pushed out just like everyone else. They aren’t an exception. So they are only reflecting your beliefs back to you in some way.
I almost always agree with you, fizzy, but in this case I didn't believe what was said to me but it still happened. I actually believed the opposite, as in that I would never hear from the SP again at that point, particularly because it had been so long. I also didn't believe or disbelieve that the person who told me so many accurate things about myself would be able to do it or would do that before she did. I didn't really even believe in psychics before I consulted any. How would you explain this?
I've had experiences like this too where I strongly believed in something and the opposite happened, or a good outcome happened and I was shocked because I didn't believe and I was feeling low. I think that my state overall was a match to the outcome, but a state is not just one belief, it can be a composition of many different beliefs. For example, I was surprised that I ran into a girl I used to go out with and she wanted to text me again. I believed that I would never see her again and our story was done. But during that time, I was imagining/ feeling love in general to help me relax so it made sense that this outcome happened because it matched the overall state I was in, even though I didn't develop that single belief that we would meet again.
I don't believe that everyone is you pushed out. Yes, I know Neville says it and it's a popular thing to say here...but I thought about this long and hard and it's just inconsistent with my life. I try to be open-minded about it - maybe my belief in freedom, randomness, and external causes is more powerful. But that shouldn't be the case because if "everyone is you pushed out" is indeed the truth - everyone should reflect what I believe about them. But in my experience, people I've known for a long time can change and behave in ways I never imagined or believed them to be. Rather, I feel like the meaning we give to their behavior reflects our own state.
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Colonel Roosevelt wrote:
I've had experiences like this too where I strongly believed in something and the opposite happened, or a good outcome happened and I was shocked because I didn't believe and I was feeling low. I think that my state overall was a match to the outcome, but a state is not just one belief, it can be a composition of many different beliefs. For example, I was surprised that I ran into a girl I used to go out with and she wanted to text me again. I believed that I would never see her again and our story was done. But during that time, I was imagining/ feeling love in general to help me relax so it made sense that this outcome happened because it matched the overall state I was in, even though I didn't develop that single belief that we would meet again.
I don't believe that everyone is you pushed out. Yes, I know Neville says it and it's a popular thing to say here...but I thought about this long and hard and it's just inconsistent with my life. I try to be open-minded about it - maybe my belief in freedom, randomness, and external causes is more powerful. But that shouldn't be the case because if "everyone is you pushed out" is indeed the truth - everyone should reflect what I believe about them. But in my experience, people I've known for a long time can change and behave in ways I never imagined or believed them to be. Rather, I feel like the meaning we give to their behavior reflects our own state.
So you don’t believe in separate states for each subject in your life? Meaning relationship, job, money... you just believe in one overall state?
If you have beliefs in freedom, randomness, and external causes then you very well could believe that others have the freedom to be random and surprising, which would still be them reflecting your beliefs back to you when they behave in unexpected ways.
Just giving my thoughts. I’m genuinely curious about your viewpoint
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I think everyone can have their own belief and there is no right or wrong.
Although here’s an interesting story:
When I was younger, in grade 8, I was at a basketball tournament and playing a game. At the exact same time the game was on, my mom was 6 hours away and decided to randomly get a psychic reading. I don’t know the exact timing, but the psychic told my mom that I’d be physically hurt very soon- or something like that. During the game I was playing, I rolled over on my ankle and ended up having to go to the hospital to get an x-ray! Who knows what the psychic saw!