yellowrose wrote:

First, I feel like I’ve asked similar questions to these on here before, but the reason for that is because my views on the LOA change & then it helps if I get confirmation so I know that I am understanding it all correctly. So thank you to whoever answers!

1. If I’m working on manifesting a better job & am in the right state for that but I am feeling stressed about my relationship at the same time, the relationship stress will not affect the manifestation of the job, correct? Since they are two different subjects?

2. If I work on changing my state about a subject in my life & believe that any past negative thoughts/fears I’ve had about this subject no longer hold any power & will not manifest, then that is what I will experience because I believe that, correct?

Keep asking. When you see the same things in a different light, you of confirmation that you have changed and that's always great. Happens to me all the time.

1. One has nothing to do with the other. I see a state as the relationship we have towards an object/concept. You just need to ask yourself what you feel to be true about something. Do you feel to be true that your relationship sucks? Yes. Do you feel to be true that you are doing great in your job and that everybody loves you? Yes. Is there a relationship between the two feelings? No. As long as one doesn't affect the other, you can have a sucky relationship and a great job. If you feel something to be true like "my life sucks", sure that will affect your relationship. But chances are that you feel that you have a sucky job then as well, else you would probably feel something real like "my life sucks except my job". So long story short, as long as you feel to be true that everything is well in one area, you can hate another area to death and all is well in that first area.

2. Yes, when you take them the power by feeling that they can't hurt you anymore, they won't be in your way. And if you believe that they were the only factors that were holding your manifestation back, when they are out of the equation, you will believe (feel to be true/know) that nothing can keep your manifestation from coming anymore and that will be your reality. In the end, it's really simple. Know that it's true and it is - that's all that there is to it

yellowrose wrote:

Sanshi wrote:

Keep asking. When you see the same things in a different light, you of confirmation that you have changed and that's always great. Happens to me all the time.

1. One has nothing to do with the other. I see a state as the relationship we have towards an object/concept. You just need to ask yourself what you feel to be true about something. Do you feel to be true that your relationship sucks? Yes. Do you feel to be true that you are doing great in your job and that everybody loves you? Yes. Is there a relationship between the two feelings? No. As long as one doesn't affect the other, you can have a sucky relationship and a great job. If you feel something to be true like "my life sucks", sure that will affect your relationship. But chances are that you feel that you have a sucky job then as well, else you would probably feel something real like "my life sucks except my job". So long story short, as long as you feel to be true that everything is well in one area, you can hate another area to death and all is well in that first area.

2. Yes, when you take them the power by feeling that they can't hurt you anymore, they won't be in your way. And if you believe that they were the only factors that were holding your manifestation back, when they are out of the equation, you will believe (feel to be true/know) that nothing can keep your manifestation from coming anymore and that will be your reality. In the end, it's really simple. Know that it's true and it is - that's all that there is to it

It’s great that you responded because there’s actually something I wanted to ask you more about

When it comes to relationships, it doesn’t matter how much self love or self confidence you have, you can be at whatever level with either of those things, & as long as you believe that you can have a good relationship with someone with whatever insecurities/negative feelings you struggle with, then that’s what you will have, right? Even if you don’t feel good about the job, the looks, etc that you have, if you just believe the person accepts you, that’s what you’ll get?

If so, that’s so simple! It may not be simple to put into practice, but the concept is.

There is hardly anybody responding besides me anymore.

For me, self love doesn't make sense. It implies separation. I can only love myself, if there is something outside of myself and that's not really the case. Of course being a version of your physical self you are happy with is a good goal and I don't suggest self hate or anything, but I think it has nothing to do with general manifesting. You manifest your whole reality all the time. If self love would play a role in this, most people wouldn't have an experience. And why should it only play a role in the relationship department? Doesn't make sense to me. The problem is that they mix up so many teachings. I think that comes from a non-LoA perspective and from there, it makes kinda sense. Think about what happens, when you don't love yourself in a relationship. You would think something like "I am ugly. Nobody likes ugly people. He will leave me anyway at some point". But not the self love is the problem here, but that they use the lack of self love as an EXCUSE to change into a state of feeling that they will leave. You can hate yourself with all your heart. As long as you don't use that as am excuse to change your state, because you "know" for example that he will never leave you, he won't leave you. You could even come from a place of completely disrespecting him like "he won't find another one anyway, so he will stay with me forever, regardless of how I treat him". You won't be happy with that of course and it will hurt yourself eventually, but he can't leave you as long as you don't feel "okay, that was TOO nasty, now it's enough even for him - he won't let me treat him like this". You always always always get what you believe. It has nothing to do with any outside causes. He doesn't stay with you because you are nice and confident. He doesn't leave you because you lose your confidence. It's only an indicator that you have changed what you believe.

Yes, it is really simple. We tend to make it much more complecated with fancy words and some made up concepts, but the core is really simple. And we do it all the time. We just need to become conscious of what we are actually doing and then own it.

I don't know exactly why they say it and I think self love got only a big issue since Agnes talks about it all the time. I could imagine two reasons. Either because they see what people are interested in attracting a person back. They come from a place of desperation, normally didn't know much about LoA and just want their person back as quickly as possible. From that place, you get nowhere. Focusing on self love is a far better advice than "trying to manifest" their person back, but has still nothing to do with LoA. I could also imagine that they really believe that it is necessary to attract someone. It works like this: "When my person came back, I always had a stone in my poket, so that has to be the reason why it happened - I will go and tell everyone the truth about the stone in the poket." I see so many LoA teachers who have no clue what they are talking about, so it wouldn't surprise me. In the end, it's all secondary cause anyway and we make up our version...lol.

About your feeling boring example: Yes, that's how it works. I always found myself not sexy or anything like this, but I "knew" that guys thought I was special and would easily fall for me - boom. Had no idea what they saw in me, but knew that they did. In an sense it's both reflection and projection. You project stuff onto other people, but the world is an exact reflection of who you are with all your beliefs. Maybe "who you are" is misleading. I don't mean like "I am a mean person, so everyone is mean to me", it's more the sum total of what I feel to be true about the world.

Yes, it comes down to knowing that it's true. It's this deep feeling of conviction in your belly. When you have negative thoughts, you already believe something. Thoughts and feelings come from a state. A thought can't come to you in a natural way, if you aren't in the right state. I tried to control my thoughts for ages and it made my life hell and I got nothing out of it. Now, I am much more relaxed, because I don't have to manage every thought. I see it just as an indicator of my state.

yellowrose wrote:

Sanshi wrote:

Yes, it comes down to knowing that it's true. It's this deep feeling of conviction in your belly. When you have negative thoughts, you already believe something. Thoughts and feelings come from a state. A thought can't come to you in a natural way, if you aren't in the right state. I tried to control my thoughts for ages and it made my life hell and I got nothing out of it. Now, I am much more relaxed, because I don't have to manage every thought. I see it just as an indicator of my state.

Whoa. Never thought of it that way. So then, I’m guessing every possible state contains both positive & negative thoughts.

Exactly! Depends on what you focus on FROM your chosen state. When you look at your mother in law and she is a virago, you don't feel so good even when you are in a happy relationship with her son. When you come out of that relationship, you feel relief when you think about her. The negative emotions are gone.
 

yellowrose wrote:

I understand that much, but how is it then that I have read some experiences where people use the revision technique on a conversation they had with someone that didn’t go to their liking, & instead of the past changing to the conversation actually having gone that way, they experience something later like the person calling back & giving them the answer they wanted?

Hm..I have a theory here. Neville really just have one "technique" in different versions. Revision is based on the past, feeling it real is in the now and I remember when is in the future. The only difference is when you feel it happening. For revision, you have to feel the event in the past like looking at it from a distance (like when something that was 2 years ago feels closer than what was 10 years ago). But if you don't see it in the past, you will create it in the now. That's an explanation that would make sense to me, but I haven't played with revision much yet.