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1/03/2018 10:13 pm  #1


Help- is it ever too late?

Hi everyone.ย  Just wondering if anyone thinks its ever too late to get an ex back? I manifest my guy back for a couple of months, just being friends..but then he told me he can't handle being friends right now, that it's not healthy..that I clearly want something more and he doesnt.ย  He said he doesn't love me in the 'gf' way anymore.ย  I'm crushed and not sure whether to just give up, of keep on applying LOA?

 

1/04/2018 9:12 am  #2


Re: Help- is it ever too late?

It depends on you. Are you willing to learn what it takes and apply it? If not, I would drop it.
Point is: People are different. For some, applying LoA is very natural. It just takes a little adjustment for them to get it to work and things happen quickly for them. Others have their own belief system in the way that makes it harder. For them, it's not enough to just feel a little good here and there. They have to really nail this stuff in order to have success. That has nothing to do with situations being easier or harder btw. It's as easy to attract a feather as it is to attract a person back after 1 year, 3 years, 10 years as it is to become a millionaire. Only our beliefs about it make it vary in the degree of difficulty.
So you have to decide. Are you willing to invest into it? Are you willing to work on yourself for another 1 or 2 years until you have success? Don't have to be that long, but could. I can only speak for myself, but it took me nearly two years to figure out what really works and what is just crap and how the relationship between all of that is. You may be faster, you may be slower. This is just about more than getting an ex back. It's about getting to know yourself, finding out who you are and how life works. If that's something you are interersted in go ahead, if it's just for the ex I personally would drop it.


"Self-abandonment. That is the secret. We have to abandon ourselves to the state, in our love for the state, and in so doing live the life of the state and no more our present state. And to make the state alive, one must become it."

Neville Goddard ~ The Law and the Promise
 

1/04/2018 10:58 pm  #3


Re: Help- is it ever too late?

Sanshi wrote:

People are different. For some, applying LoA is very natural. It just takes a little adjustment for them to get it to work and things happen quickly for them. Others have their own belief system in the way that makes it harder. For them, it's not enough to just feel a little good here and there. They have to really nail this stuff in order to have success. That has nothing to do with situations being easier or harder btw. It's as easy to attract a feather as it is to attract a person back after 1 year, 3 years, 10 years as it is to become a millionaire. Only our beliefs about it make it vary in the degree of difficulty.
So you have to decide. Are you willing to invest into it? Are you willing to work on yourself for another 1 or 2 years until you have success? Don't have to be that long, but could. I can only speak for myself, but it took me nearly two years to figure out what really works and what is just crap and how the relationship between all of that is. You may be faster, you may be slower. This is just about more than getting an ex back. It's about getting to know yourself, finding out who you are and how life works. If that's something you are interersted in go ahead, if it's just for the ex I personally would drop it.

I want to jump in here because I came across someone recently who claims to have studied manifesting for years until they found out what seems to always work. They said you can have anything from a neutral feeling (feeling like it could happen, but not expecting it to) to total expectation that something will manifest, & it will as long as you stay in those feelings. But you canโ€™t have doubt of any kind. The moment you slip into doubt about it or worse & stay there, thatโ€™s when it wonโ€™t manifest.

I have never heard it put this exact way before. Does this go along with what you have found works?

 

1/05/2018 2:46 am  #4


Re: Help- is it ever too late?

Yellow Rose: The problem is that we're human beings and often look at things logically. For example I'll talk about exes because that seems the most popular topic around. Imagine you really want a relationship with someone who's with someone else in a very long standing relationship, married, the person's partner is a big success and they have plenty of money. You're broke and not in a secure job. You know you'd be good together though but that's all you know with certainty. You have the thought they'd stay with the other person out of being settled, security, habit etc. How do you make yourself stop doubting even though that doubt is fleeting? That's before you get into ethics and karma of wanting a married person.

Note, this situation is PURELY HYPOTHETICAL!


Be a flamingo in a flock of pigeons.
 

1/05/2018 3:03 am  #5


Re: Help- is it ever too late?

yellowrose wrote:

Sanshi wrote:

People are different. For some, applying LoA is very natural. It just takes a little adjustment for them to get it to work and things happen quickly for them. Others have their own belief system in the way that makes it harder. For them, it's not enough to just feel a little good here and there. They have to really nail this stuff in order to have success. That has nothing to do with situations being easier or harder btw. It's as easy to attract a feather as it is to attract a person back after 1 year, 3 years, 10 years as it is to become a millionaire. Only our beliefs about it make it vary in the degree of difficulty.
So you have to decide. Are you willing to invest into it? Are you willing to work on yourself for another 1 or 2 years until you have success? Don't have to be that long, but could. I can only speak for myself, but it took me nearly two years to figure out what really works and what is just crap and how the relationship between all of that is. You may be faster, you may be slower. This is just about more than getting an ex back. It's about getting to know yourself, finding out who you are and how life works. If that's something you are interersted in go ahead, if it's just for the ex I personally would drop it.

I want to jump in here because I came across someone recently who claims to have studied manifesting for years until they found out what seems to always work. They said you can have anything from a neutral feeling (feeling like it could happen, but not expecting it to) to total expectation that something will manifest, & it will as long as you stay in those feelings. But you canโ€™t have doubt of any kind. The moment you slip into doubt about it or worse & stay there, thatโ€™s when it wonโ€™t manifest.

I have never heard it put this exact way before. Does this go along with what you have found works?

LOA is about mindset - it a combination of beliefs and expectations.

To say you won't manifest if you have doubt is false. Think that everyday we are manifesting - you have been using LOA your whole life - did everything you accomplish only every come about when you were neutral or fully expectant? I highly doubt it.

There is a difference in having doubts and being in a doubtful/fearful state. They are two different mindsets. A moment of doubt is not going to derail your manifestation. Success comes about despite doubts or fear, because a success mindset is able to see past them or understands that their desire is greater than their attention to doubts. I would say when your desire is greater than your fear or doubt - that's when the magic happens.

Sometimes people get stuck in a perpetual addictive loop of wanting but fearing, wanting but fearing. This is a poor state for manifesting because there is no real measure of the level of  desire. They become driven by the fear more than the desire.

Using LOA to get an ex back is a perfect example - many are being driven by fear, regret and disappointment. The desire isn't allowed to flourish because they don't focus on their desire from a place of expectancy (they may falsely declare that they expect it but at their core this is not true). That's why working on yourself is so important - because it allows you to tap into your true desires and then move forward.

My biggest manifestation last year - I achieved despite moments of doubt that would come up. In reflection and even in the midst of it I would say that the doubt may have made the manifestation take longer - but it didn't stop it from manifesting and that is simply because my faith was strong. As you practice more and consciously manifest more then you can dispel moments of doubt much quicker until it rarely occurs.

 

1/05/2018 10:36 am  #6


Re: Help- is it ever too late?

yellowrose wrote:

I want to jump in here because I came across someone recently who claims to have studied manifesting for years until they found out what seems to always work. They said you can have anything from a neutral feeling (feeling like it could happen, but not expecting it to) to total expectation that something will manifest, & it will as long as you stay in those feelings. But you canโ€™t have doubt of any kind. The moment you slip into doubt about it or worse & stay there, thatโ€™s when it wonโ€™t manifest.

I have never heard it put this exact way before. Does this go along with what you have found works?

My experience is that when I believe that something could happen that it can happen (but doesn't have to). Very stupid example: I have been playing Pokemon Shuffle for the past 3 years. After you have completed a level, you can catch a Pokemon and the catch rate depends on how good you have been doing. I always believe that it could happen that I catch the Pokemon, because even 1% possibility is a possibility. It's not that I actively doubt or worry - I simply don't care, it's just a game. But it doesn't always happen, even when something catches my attention the moment I try to catch it and I don't even have the chance to doubt it.
I think Oasiscalm hit the nail on the head when she said it's the mindset. When you ARE (aka feel yourself to be) a rich person and have a thought like "omg, I will lose everything" that doesn't mean you will lose everything, because you are still the rich person - you have this concept of yourself. When you think that one doubt can destroy everything, you have never reached the right state to begin with. I think that's key here. It's not the doubt itself. It's the state from which the doubt can come. I remember one of my biggest manifestations (before I knew about LoA). In the beginning, I doubted it, but I was open to it. I talked myself into it, dreamt myself into it and after a while I was that person who had it. I talked to others like "when I am there, then...bla". My mother was really surprised how convinced I was, because she doubted it big time. At some point, I caught myself in a daydream that was so real that I had to convince myself that I wasn't it yet. When I got a kind of refusal (still a chance, but highly reduced), I didn't accept that in conciousness. For a moment I was like "oh no...", but my state of already being it was so strong that I wasn't able to accept it. I knew better. There was no reason for doubt, because I was it - how can I doubt something I am? I am a psychology student (that was the manifestation btw). Sometimes I have a little doubt in being a psychology student...not. That would be silly. So I think, when you are in the state doubt isn't an issue anymore.

And back to the possibility. That's something I see a lot. If something happens that I am not sure of before, I have a concept of likelihood about it. If you would ask me how likely I think it is that a plane crashes into my living room within the next 10 minutes, I would have a very different feeling about that than about how likely it is that someone rings at the door within the next 2 days. That are all things I believe in and my reality will conform with my concepts of likelihood. I see that some things happen to other people much more often than they happen to me - seemingly random. But we have just different concepts of it.


"Self-abandonment. That is the secret. We have to abandon ourselves to the state, in our love for the state, and in so doing live the life of the state and no more our present state. And to make the state alive, one must become it."

Neville Goddard ~ The Law and the Promise
 

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