Lifesagas wrote:

I think most LOA stuff can be contradictory and confusing to be honest. Particularly when it comes to attracting specific people.

Some really respected LOA teachers say you can't attract a specific person and you shouldn't even try.

I've listened to some teachers say it can't NOT happen and if you set the intention it will happen. Yet they contradict themselves in other talks.

For example - great, I've set my intention! Okay but you have to really believe it. Okay done...not quite happened yet.

You have to be in a good vibe/the vortex. Okay, done...not quite here yet.

You have to live in the end as well so live your life like it's already here...but you can't think about it TOO much or be obsessed. Okay done...not quite here yet.

You can't be resistant...okay, don't think I am so what now? What does resistance even mean?

Oh it's a law that you will get it but there are other laws too. Are there? I thought you said it couldn't not happen?

Oh there's the law of gestation. But I thought it was guaranteed in X number of days? Well it is but there's this law too. Okay..so not a guarantee then?

How long will it take, I thought it had already happened when I made the intention? Oh it happens straight away sometimes. Okay but not always? We can't really say how long, but it will happen. Years? For some people it seems to take that long. Okay, so not as simple as just believing then? How would I not doubt if it is taking so long? You just have to.

Let it go, you have to not want it. But how do I let go and believe and live in the end at the same time?

And you have to be in a state of allowing, that's a law too. But I thought I just had to set the intention and believe?? Why are there all this caveats?

You might just get something 'better'. But..but I thought you said I could manifest this person?

No wonder people get confused and get upset when they then hear there's something else they should be doing or hear something that contradicts what they thought they knew!

If any coach could offer a 100% guarantee that it would happen even in 12 mths, let alone 30 days or whatever, they'd be multimillionaires within 6 months!

The LOA principles have changed my life for the better in so many ways but if I have one problem with it; it's the fact that success is always attributed to the methods or techniques or 'laws' but failure is always attributed to the person; not believing enough or having limiting beliefs or being resistant or not allowing or not giving it enough time or wanting it too much or not letting go or.....

The fact is, it's a multi-billion dollars industry with numerous books and videos and teachers and coaches and workshops and programmes. If it was as straight forward as some people suggest, none of the industry would be needed. You'd buy one book or watch one video and bingo! Everything you want!

I believe in it but I don't believe there are any absolute guarantees (I know a lot of people disagree) and I think it's complicated and confusing and really hard sometimes!

And Agnes said that she's basing her views not just on Neville but her experience over 20 years of using LOA and 'teaching' or coaching for years. She can't say 100% it'll happen because that's not been her experience and it would be unethical for her to claim so. BUT she says she's  seen success in about 85% in cases if all 'the right things' are done. Those are amazing statistics! Well worth a good try.

Great post.   And I would honest take a risk on the 85 percent success rate.   Those are really good odds

It would be like if people gambled on a sporting event, and the team/boxer had 85 percent odds of winning.   And if you win, you win a million dollars. But if you lose, you lose say 400 dollars.    I would take that risk even if it's not 100 percent


When it comes to loa.  I would make sure I get my vibe so high.  That I have a great chance of attracting the person.  But even if I don't, my vibe is so high so I'm still happy

I know Dan and Sunny! I switch off straight away if someone says it's guaranteed because you only have to look around this forum to see it isn't true. And I don't think that is always because the person did 'something wrong' in their attempts at manifesting. Plus, I think we all have enough confidence to know that there are some people we know who would never be able to attract us into a relationship regardless of any LOA principles they employed!

I really respect any coach standing up and saying no, it isn't guaranteed because it's honest and ethical. But 85%!!! That is AMAZING. I'll take those odds and if it doesn't happen I can feel reassured I did all I could and not spend time torturing myself thinking 'but what did I do wrong?'.

Last edited by Lifesagas (8/30/2017 10:48 am)

True. I had a few days recently of doubt and low vibe but I've come back up the last couple of days because I just thought 'okay, what if not?, it won't be the end of the world!, it's not something I need and if it doesn't happen I feel secure that something else will!'.

Lifesagas wrote:

True. I had a few days recently of doubt and low vibe but I've come back up the last couple of days because I just thought 'okay, what if not?, it won't be the end of the world!, it's not something I need and if it doesn't happen I feel secure that something else will!'.

Yess, it Won't be the end of the world.

Oh I agree Col. I don't think it can always be attributed to LOA because yes, people get back together all the time.

It's familiar, it's easier than going through the whole getting to know someone stuff. They already know what you are like and what you like or don't like. You have some feelings for them anyway and good memories (even if it was bad at the end people usually think about the positive, happy stuff after a bit of distance when the bad stuff starts to fade)

There are dozens of 'get your ex back' programmes, books, tips and videos that don't mention LOA at all. They all say similar things as LOA stuff though, no contact, don't be needy or desperate, fill your life with good things and activities, be happy, focus on you and only consider letting things back into your life that will be good for you.

The LOA approach is the same but with added 'stuff'.

Some people will say the non-LOA approach is still LOA but not conciously. I'd like to see some research trials but that will never happen lol!

Last edited by Lifesagas (8/30/2017 12:10 pm)