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I love it!
It's great but she isn't saying anything different to what Agnes said recently yet there doesn't seem to be the extreme backlash.
The video says that it's possible (no guarantee given) to attract a specific person but that it has to come from self-love and a great vibe that attracts.
But it can't be about obsession or 'mind control' and you can't 'make' someone love you.
I 100% agree but wonder why she hasn't had the backlash that Agnes experienced as she's essentially saying the same things?
Last edited by Lifesagas (8/29/2017 10:30 am)
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Well, that's more in line with my beliefs. I think it's good if people can reject what we send them, and we likewise can reject what people send us, I value freedom. I do believe in telepathy and I think that plays a part too, especially if you had a close bond with someone. I've had an experience which made me think that people can sense what we send them as well as our vibration, but they can still reject it. But sometimes you can do all the self-love/ Abe/ Neville/ LoA stuff perfectly and people will still reject you. Why? Because they're on different wavelengths, a different vibration overall. This is why I'm not with Mila Kunis even though I've fantasized about us for 15 years, we're on different wavelengths thanks to where we are in life and the lifestyles and experiences we want (although I think I attracted a Mila Kunis lookalike who happened to be more my speed, we were in similar situations and wanted similar experiences, we were on similar wavelengths so I think that was a great outcome). A great example of this is how kids leave the nest for college or how friends outgrow each other and leave the group, they're on different wavelengths. That also reminds me...so many people fantasize about actors and models, yet they tend to date within their own circles. If they can't reject what we send them, can you imagine the influence of thousands if not millions of people as they fantasize about you? When people ask if they can use LoA to attract someone, they probably think that LoA will magically make the person like them, but I never thought of it that way. I thought it was about working with LoA principles to change you and your mindset and beliefs, and from their action and behavior changes too, so you become a person who is more likely to be attractive to that person.
Anyway, why is Veronica not getting backlash (yet)? Because I think Agnes was more popular, her videos were being shared on several forums all around. And the "everyone is you pushed out" idea is confusing when you stack it against the idea that people can reject what they send you. Also, telling people it's still possible may have been the magic phrase that calmed people down, sometimes I feel like people don't really want to learn more about LoA, they just come here for a quick fix and to have someone tell them "Yes, it's still possible, anything is possible" which is not always a healthy thing to tell people because it just motivates them to keep going around in the same cycles without critically thinking about their own issues and how to make the process better.
Last edited by Colonel Roosevelt (8/28/2017 12:13 pm)
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I agree a lot of people don't really want to learn about LOA or the other laws. They just want to hear what will 'get' them a person they've decided they want. Regardless of what the other person wants.
I think telepathy/remote viewing/influence is possible but not nearly all the time (I have looked at lots of studies). It' s nowhere near proven but some genuine studies suggest on the balance of probability, it can happen. And I think its far, far more likely if you have a genuine and reciprocated emotional connection with someone.
It's interesting what you say about people forming relationships within certain circles so e.g models or film stars being attracted to similar. That's my experience too and it's why I question a lot of the rhetoric around 'soulmates'. It's very rare in my experience that someone is sure they met their 'soulmate' far out of their age or attractiveness level. Or sex for that matter.
It's very rare that a 23 year old 120lb beautiful woman or ripped
handsome man thinks their soulmate is that 500lb co-worker or their 60 year old neighbour.
Which brings us back to 'anything is possible'. Does anyone really think it's possible that their 500lb co-worker who they're not attracted to or their elderly neighbour could use LOA or influence to make them love them?. No? Then why would you get upset if someone says you can't 'make' the person you want, want you?
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I think there's some confusion. Veronica states that you can get your ex back, no matter what. In fact she said if done properly, it's garenteed. She's always said that no matter the circumstance, we will, if done right, get them back. She's never said that it's "possible, but not garenteed". In fact, she's even used the word "garenteed" many times, saying that no matter what the situation, it works 100% of the time, and that WE ALWAYS CAN no matter what, get an ex back.Agnes, on the other hand, went back on her word, starting off that way, then claiming the opposite. Just want to make that clear.
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I don't think that's what Veronica is saying is this video Will. I think she's saying it is possible. But she's not saying it's guaranteed here, she may revise her previous opinions, we are all entitled to do that.
And she says clearly in this video you can't be obsessed and you can't make someone love you or use mind control.
I know that what you desperately want to happen is that someone will tell you that you'll get what you want without the other person having to revise her opinion that she doesn't want you or that you ignored her wishes by harassing her and frightening her. You did all those things and posted about them.
I will be very interested to hear if Veronica says that was okay and you obsessively wanting her months past her threatening you with a restraining order means you'll 'get' her to be with you.
I don't think Veronica will.
And now you'll probably post abuse towards me and it'll be ignored and the whole thread deleted.
Last edited by Lifesagas (8/28/2017 2:34 pm)
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I wasn't sure how to deal with the situation the last time, that was on me. I was still fairly new to the whole mod thing, there was some good information in the last post so I regret doing so, that was on me.Β
I think regardless of whether it's possibleΒ or not it's important to get obsessed with anything/anyone to the extent it takes over your life and hinders your existence.Β
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I feel anything(or most things) are possible. When you're at a high vibe, but when you're at a high vibe, you don't really worry about things that aren't possible, because you know how fast other opportunities open up
About the example with the 400-500 pound guy. Maybe not to that extent, but I've seen plenty of overweight people with very good looking people But I do agree most of the time, some things aren't guaranteed and mostly are exceptions
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I've never seen Veronica as having a vice grip on this theory. People have had conversations with her about specific people but the conversations transition to being about general relationships.Β That's why I can understand her not having backlash.
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Avaelle wrote:
I've never seen Veronica as having a vice grip on this theory. People have had conversations with her about specific people but the conversations transition to being about general relationships.Β That's why I can understand her not having backlash.
Yeah, I joined here wanting to get a specific person back, then I went from wanting him to being involved with someone else, to now just wanting to learn about as much about LOA as possible. If the man I originally set out to manifest returns, great! But I know right now I'm absolutely okay by myself and being by myself right now gives me all the time in the world to work on me.Β
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This may be random, but as far as weight - a friend of mine came over yesterday. She's VERY thin and pretty.Β The first thing she said was that she were ugly.Β I think she had just left a party and was insecure. I had to sit and explain to her that she can't self talk herself stuff like that because if she believes that then everyone will believe her. I told her that is why our bigger friend(probably 400lbs lol) always has an entree of men because she believes in herself. She gets better looking and nicer men than us.