Dan2015 wrote:

Avaelle wrote:

I think you're finding it difficult to apply the methods because you're attempting to do so from a place of hurt and serious depression. When you think about it,  can we really give anything a solid effort when we're so very pained?  I think a good step for you would be to alleviate your darkness. Identify things that make you happy and indulge yourself into them  a lot. When you think you've done enough,  indulge yourself some more so that you feel less suffering. Then,  you can try to apply the methods and possibly have better results.  You need to tip the scale so that things with this woman aren't so heartbreaking for you. 

In addition,  I think you should take a peek at : https://hopeline.com/ . I've used it throughout a point in my life and was able to match up with several people to chat with. The way you're feeling isn't to be played with and I find it important that you match with people that have been trained to not say things that would infuriate ate, sadden or tip you over the edge.  All the best

I feel this is a great suggestion. Especially the website.     I feel like right now he needs to suspend the "loa mindset"(even though loa is a part of everything)

He should try to heal his anxiety and depression before trying to use loa to attract her back,    I remember when I had anxiety about things and was depressed, I couldn't use loa to attract anything positive.   He's just not in the right place right now

I understand. That he says that she is the main happiness, etc.   and there's nothing wrong with her bringing him happiness.       But right now he's prettty obsessed(I don't mean that in the way of trying to bring him down or make him look bad either,  I remember when I was kinda obsessed, it was horrible.  All I wanted to do was sleep and eat)

He just needs to find another form of happiness,  whether it's music,exercising,sports, video games, etc.   and when he's not at work, he just like you said, needs to spend most of his time doing that

The chatline is a great suggestion.    As great as most of the people on this forum are, we aren't really trained how to deal with problems in a professional way, so I feel that's where some of the attitude and rudeness comes from(I feel I've been rude and had an attitude towards him a few times)   Since we at times let frustration get the best of us

Trained people, maybe have a "longer leash" to allow them nor to get irritated


It doesn't matter whether it's loa or anything.     You can gather all the information you want, but if you don't apply it.  Nothing is gonna be fixed.    I could read a million books about how to Fix my car.  But if I don't actually try to apply it on the car, nothing is going to happen

But as you say, it's hard to apply things when you're angry,depressed,etc    Everything feels harder to do

Plus, I feel.  Like his biggest problem is.  He doesn't believe it's possible.   I mean, if I was on a diet.  But in the back of my mind.  I didn't believe it was possible.  I'll most likely overcompensate, force things to happen, try harder, or totally mess up

So true both of you yeah we are only humans and not professional's thats the reason some of us "hurt" him.

I hope he finds his way and see that most people here one way or the other try to help him in their own way.

jellyb wrote:

Hopeline is a great suggestion, I don't know what part of the world you're in but if you're in the UK, the Samaritans are great too.

I think he lives in the States but from experience to anybody from the UK reading this The Samaritans are a really helpful. I've called them countless of times throughout the past 2 years whenever I've needed someone to talk to. 

I'm just repeating what others have said but the need to be happy in yourself has to be greater than the need to be happy through a specific person, a certain item or whatever the desire is. Depression and anxiety are awful things, I know this from experience but from a LOA  standpoint you' won't be in the right place to manifest anything positive from it, you're essentially swimming upstream against the current. If negative thoughts and actions are consuming you on a daily basis you should seek professional help, there's nothing wrong with asking for help. Your health and wellbeing should always be the priority because you have to live with yourself in your body, obviously. 

Focus on yourself. I found studying LOA and the many teachings helped me gain a better perspective and at the same time kept my mind busy during hard times. Do anything that'll keep you happy because it's always about you. 
You'll have the odd off day here and there, it happens. You're only human. These bad days won't stop you manifesting, focusing on the same thing will be what causes it to manifest. So just change the channel. If there's a show you don't like on TV you wouldn't sit there and watch it. 

I just wanted to interject on this thread because I have had some people contact me about it.  I just want to remind everyone to be kind to one another, and remember that it's hard to understand someone's situation unless you are actually within their shoes.  I do want to also say that the key to manifesting is really being at peace.  And, if you have been trying the same technique with no luck - then it's time to start a new technique. So, I would suggest to really do inner work on yourself for better results.  When you hammer away at something, it just pushes it further.  I know, I know, it's hard when you want something reallllllly badly.  But, the less you can "need" the faster the Universe can deliver.

VeronicaAdmin wrote:

I just wanted to interject on this thread because I have had some people contact me about it.  I just want to remind everyone to be kind to one another, and remember that it's hard to understand someone's situation unless you are actually within their shoes.  I do want to also say that the key to manifesting is really being at peace.  And, if you have been trying the same technique with no luck - then it's time to start a new technique. So, I would suggest to really do inner work on yourself for better results.  When you hammer away at something, it just pushes it further.  I know, I know, it's hard when you want something reallllllly badly.  But, the less you can "need" the faster the Universe can deliver.

I agree Veronica, but I'd also like to say that all the outbursts of the F word are inappropriate on a public board. We wouldn't speak like that to colleagues or friends, at least I hope not, so I don't think it has any place here no matter how upset someone is. I've found it very offensive, personally.

Let's get the board back to its true intention for all participants!

Meg2222 wrote:

PrettyFlamingo wrote:

VeronicaAdmin wrote:

I just wanted to interject on this thread because I have had some people contact me about it.  I just want to remind everyone to be kind to one another, and remember that it's hard to understand someone's situation unless you are actually within their shoes.  I do want to also say that the key to manifesting is really being at peace.  And, if you have been trying the same technique with no luck - then it's time to start a new technique. So, I would suggest to really do inner work on yourself for better results.  When you hammer away at something, it just pushes it further.  I know, I know, it's hard when you want something reallllllly badly.  But, the less you can "need" the faster the Universe can deliver.

I agree Veronica, but I'd also like to say that all the outbursts of the F word are inappropriate on a public board. We wouldn't speak like that to colleagues or friends, at least I hope not, so I don't think it has any place here no matter how upset someone is. I've found it very offensive, personally.

Let's get the board back to its true intention for all participants!

I agree. We are all here to help each other! Maybe this whole thread should be deleted now, start from fresh? xx

I don't think it should be.There is valuable information in this thread. I personally don't use foul words but I understand that my brother here is in a bad place. Some of us just seem "further out of the woods" than him.