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1/04/2017 8:26 am  #11


Re: If we attract everything,

Sanshi wrote:

YesIWILL wrote:

so how is any of this true?! it sounds like confirmation bias and coincidence to me. sorry. i just got my confidence shot way down tonight by a situation. but it is making me lose faith, completely. if i dont control all of it, how the **** can i get someone who hates me and no longer finds me attractive back??!

You doubt, so you attract the responses you fear. You could take this as a proof of your power.

You have to make a choice here and regardless of what you choose, you will never have a real proof, if your choice was right, only evidence. It's always a belief choice. Either you choose that what you have probably believed your whole life, that there is an outside world with people and objects moving around in it. If you are lucky, you can manipulate something here and there, but LoA doesn't really makes sense in such a world, at least for me. The second model you can choose is that the whole world doesn't exist outside, but inside your consciousness. Then, suddenly it makes sense that you can manipulate things and it makes you infinitely powerful. The choice is up to you. I only know a few people who are bold enough to accept the second concept in its fullness, but those people have the most incredible manifestation stories to tell. I haven't fully integrated it in my life yet, but since I try to live with this model, the amount of synchronicities and instant manifestations that I encounter has increased significantly.


It's not a very good idea to think about experiences that you had before you learned about LoA, because you most probably had no clue what you thought back then.
And everyone can have a bad day. That's something you know (aka you have a belief about), so why does it surprise you?

Β well what about the sister thing? i had no thoughts, was upbeat amd care free and then tbat happened. why do things like this happen?

for instance, i KNOW im a very good looking guy, but my sister told me i am a 6/10 today and had a "meh" response from a girl at a bar tonight (no, i didnt ask my sister, it just happened. Yes, i thought the girl was cute, no intention of making a move since i want my ex back)

so thats another example. why would i get some girls telling me how im so hot, while others dont, when i expect them to say i am

or another example, when i ask for a free coffee, believe it without a doubt, envision it, etc. and it just never comes? its not about doubt, because i truly believed itd come.

or hell, another example. One time I was feeing great after meeing up with my ex last year, and on my way home, I had the music up, was singing along, etc., and a cop came, pulled me over, and gave me  ticket.

and what about free will? i had people reply completely negatively when i  was feeling upbeat  and carefree, while other times i was furious, upset, sad, and had expected things to get even worse and had experienced good things happening?

i tried doing PW on someone over the course of a few weeks (3-4)... nothing.

Or id ask for a sign about something, genuinely believing it would come... didnt look, let the thought go after and... nothing.

tonight something got me very down, (i dont want to say what it is just in case it creates that thing again... also its very personal), yet i was feeling great... i dont understand. in this situation too, there was no conflicting belief...

i just am seeing a lot of contradictory things despite my mindset. can someone explain?

 

1/04/2017 8:38 am  #12


Re: If we attract everything,

Obviously, you search for evidence. So you don't really believe in LoA and that's what's reflected back to you.

There is still the time gap. So when you feel good now, it doesn't mean something bad can't happen.

Honestly, I'm tired of convincing people. It's not my job and it doesn't make so much sense to tell me what has happened, because I neither know your thoughts nor your beliefs. At some point, you have to stop questioning things and decide what you want to believe in.


"Self-abandonment. That is the secret. We have to abandon ourselves to the state, in our love for the state, and in so doing live the life of the state and no more our present state. And to make the state alive, one must become it."

Neville Goddard ~ The Law and the Promise
 

1/04/2017 11:07 am  #13


Re: If we attract everything,

A lot of people like myself are new to this experience. I don't see what's wrong with asking a question. I don't understand why some seem to be so harsh . They only way to find answers is to ask questions, right ?
If you don't want to answer a question, why not scroll past instead ...

 

1/04/2017 11:37 am  #14


Re: If we attract everything,

Tumom wrote:

A lot of people like myself are new to this experience. I don't see what's wrong with asking a question. I don't understand why some seem to be so harsh . They only way to find answers is to ask questions, right ?
If you don't want to answer a question, why not scroll past instead ...

I'm fairly new here myself.Β  I've only been here a couple of months. To the best of my understanding, this board is here for us to help each other and to share what we've picked up.Β Β  I've noticed a bit of mocking and attacks here and there.Β  I imagine the bumping of heads is a result of this not actually being the place for skeptics to roll out their arguments.Β  There are audiences for that.Β  I'd say that most aren't here for it.


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1/04/2017 11:45 am  #15


Re: If we attract everything,

Tumom wrote:

They only way to find answers is to ask questions, right ?

This is a LoA forum and from an LoA perspective the answer is no. You can't find an answer from the vibration of the question. That's not only a nice theory, but my actual experience. At some point you have to make a decision and your world will mold around your decision.


And when someone replies with a quote to my posts and the reply contains questions, I assume that the questions are directed to me. So wouldn't not replying at all being rude too? But don't worry, I will leave the forum very very soon anyway.


"Self-abandonment. That is the secret. We have to abandon ourselves to the state, in our love for the state, and in so doing live the life of the state and no more our present state. And to make the state alive, one must become it."

Neville Goddard ~ The Law and the Promise
 

1/04/2017 11:51 am  #16


Re: If we attract everything,

Tumom wrote:

A lot of people like myself are new to this experience.

And btw, he is far from being new to this. With his first account he joined back in the summer or even earlier and he knows about LoA for at least three years. So, when do you think it's time to stop asking questions and time to apply this stuff?


"Self-abandonment. That is the secret. We have to abandon ourselves to the state, in our love for the state, and in so doing live the life of the state and no more our present state. And to make the state alive, one must become it."

Neville Goddard ~ The Law and the Promise
 

1/04/2017 11:55 am  #17


Re: If we attract everything,

To help others ... But are we doing that ? Sometimes I read the responses and some come off harsh  .  There's a way of being informative without making others look down on themselves .
I've seen this all too often and it's sad , especially for those that are fairly new .

 

1/04/2017 1:09 pm  #18


Re: If we attract everything,

Tumom wrote:

To help others ... But are we doing that ? Sometimes I read the responses and some come off harsh  .  There's a way of being informative without making others look down on themselves .
I've seen this all too often and it's sad , especially for those that are fairly new .

We can't help others anyway. Everyone has their own timing and we can't make it click quicker for them, regardless of what we say. It's a vibrational thing too. Even people who are new have all the information they need. But some take it and apply it and others ask the same questions over and over again. It may bring you comfort to hear the same stuff over and over again, but it doesn't bring you closer to the life you want.
I can only speak for me, but I'm annoyed as hell from this forum and I will leave soon for that very reason and for some other reasons. But even without being annoyed, I don't think that sugar coating helps. And what you read is always your perception. The "don't ask questions" thing is the best example. What you read in it had nothing to do with what I meant. And that's what I said earlier about that we can't help people. I can try my best to make clear what I mean, but I can't control how you perceive it.


"Self-abandonment. That is the secret. We have to abandon ourselves to the state, in our love for the state, and in so doing live the life of the state and no more our present state. And to make the state alive, one must become it."

Neville Goddard ~ The Law and the Promise
 

1/04/2017 1:28 pm  #19


Re: If we attract everything,

Sanshi wrote:

Tumom wrote:

To help others ... But are we doing that ? Sometimes I read the responses and some come off harsh  .  There's a way of being informative without making others look down on themselves .
I've seen this all too often and it's sad , especially for those that are fairly new .

We can't help others anyway. Everyone has their own timing and we can't make it click quicker for them, regardless of what we say. It's a vibrational thing too. Even people who are new have all the information they need. But some take it and apply it and others ask the same questions over and over again. It may bring you comfort to hear the same stuff over and over again, but it doesn't bring you closer to the life you want.
I can only speak for me, but I'm annoyed as hell from this forum and I will leave soon for that very reason and for some other reasons. But even without being annoyed, I don't think that sugar coating helps. And what you read is always your perception. The "don't ask questions" thing is the best example. What you read in it had nothing to do with what I meant. And that's what I said earlier about that we can't help people. I can try my best to make clear what I mean, but I can't control how you perceive it.

That's your choice . But please don't put me in it . I'm here to learn and I've gotten great support and advice from many . You feel how you feel . I've seen many ask for advice and get it , maybe someone isn't on another's level . I'm not here to debate with you or anyone else . That being said I will continue to be here to listen and learn from others . If you choose to leave I say , goodbye and all the best to you .

 

1/04/2017 1:40 pm  #20


Re: If we attract everything,

Ouch. That will be a major hit to the forum..


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