Avaelle wrote:

Colonel Roosevelt wrote:

ShootingStar, are you OK?

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Dan2015 wrote:

I think  it's interesting when people bring up wars,famine,world hunger,etc,etc,etc  to  discredit LOA.... See, it's actually a fair point, but I think there's a easy explanation, the world  as a collective unit, focuses on all of that stuff, the crazy thing is, whether it's wars,racism,hunger,homelessness,etc.. people think about those things A LOT, but in a negative/worrying way.

People never think of those things, and try to think of a SOLUTION for them, imagine if all of us, who think about those things in a fearful/worry way,thought of those things in a way to SOLVE/FIX them?

I think this is because people think that the word 'attract' means 'deserve' which it doesn't? Like people don't deserve to die of famine, but they might have 'attracted' it, but I think how someone would 'attract' famine would be also through birth, like the fact that they were born in Somalia means that they were in a position to 'attract' famine because they were born in a desert like place... Did they choose their birth? Well, it would be common to say no, but in LOA terms they did, they made a contract to come into the body that they did. Depends on how you see it. But 'attract' doesn't mean 'deserve' , like Donald Trump doesn't deserve to be that rich, but he 'attracted' it by being born into wealth and by focusing on wealth and bringing in more wealth. 

Ignoring homelessness doesn't decrease homelessness, it just shoves it under the rug. Seeing homelessness and then disagreeing with it and then paying money every month into a charity to help homelessness, creates change. Your vibration would be to say 'no' to homelessness but also 'yes' to helping people get homes. Same with war and famine and everything else. If you see what you don't like even once, but then focus on making it better by putting focus and support (money) into a means to end that thing, then that's LOA in action 

ok well then here's that story in an LOA perspective ...

He and Her came together to create a relationship, even though it created some feelings of joy, He was not satisfied in that relationship and that caused her to show much more negative feelings than he and she probably felt positive - because she was more hurt in her ego that he did not want to be with her. So she lashed out and vandalized his car. He, though probably not wishing her bad wishes, decided to not speak to her again and hoped to find happiness without her and that she would find happiness without him. She is still hung up on him, but probably more for the fact that he rejected her, because if it had been real love- she would not have vandalized his car because that's not what love is. So She and He never created the real, satisfying love relationship that either of them was probably looking for and He knew that before she did but she didn't get to walk away, he did. Now he's gone and she's thinking of ways to somehow sway him back into her reality because she feels that she's got unfinished business with him but he clearly does not feel the same way and the memory of the feeling of his poor car getting vandalized has probably stuck with him so even the idea of reconnecting with her would just stir up that emotion, which is probably anger, and so he does not want to go there- - because doing so would just cause him more harm than good and he knows it. 

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Sunny- I think you should listen to Abraham Hicks' teachings on relationships. She talks about the idea of two people coming together and co-creating, in fact there is one video about a man who asks Abraham how to get rid of his ex girlfriend from interfering in his life and Abraham asks him to visualise her having a happy life with someone else. Abraham also does talk about the endings of relationships, accepting them as endings and understanding that some relationships are just not meant to be because the two people involved in the relationship simply desire something else that the other one refuses to give them. She mentions attracting back a specific person, but if you do listen to her you will hear that she maintains that you cannot actually manipulate someone into a situation, so if a man doesn't want to speak to the woman who vandalised his car, that would be his desire and her desire to speak to him would not interfere with his desire not to. It would depend on how strong his desire not to speak with her is, which I would presume is pretty high. So if one person is wanting something but another is not, that person can't make the other person want what they're wanting you see or that's not perfect aligment. That's why relationships happen when two people are desiring and wanting the same thing- to be with each other, and why they end when the desires change. So if you murdered your ex boyfriend's beloved cat, he would naturally make it his strong desire to never see or speak to you again. That would be his own desire. 

ShootingStar wrote:

Sunny- I think you should listen to Abraham Hicks' teachings on relationships. She talks about the idea of two people coming together and co-creating, in fact there is one video about a man who asks Abraham how to get rid of his ex girlfriend from interfering in his life and Abraham asks him to visualise her having a happy life with someone else. Abraham also does talk about the endings of relationships, accepting them as endings and understanding that some relationships are just not meant to be because the two people involved in the relationship simply desire something else that the other one refuses to give them. She mentions attracting back a specific person, but if you do listen to her you will hear that she maintains that you cannot actually manipulate someone into a situation, so if a man doesn't want to speak to the woman who vandalised his car, that would be his desire and her desire to speak to him would not interfere with his desire not to. It would depend on how strong his desire not to speak with her is, which I would presume is pretty high. So if one person is wanting something but another is not, that person can't make the other person want what they're wanting you see or that's not perfect aligment. That's why relationships happen when two people are desiring and wanting the same thing- to be with each other, and why they end when the desires change. So if you murdered your ex boyfriend's beloved cat, he would naturally make it his strong desire to never see or speak to you again. That would be his own desire. 

I agree -- you cannot manipulate anyone into doing anything. But, I also believe you don't have to. I have listened to Abraham, but not everything they say resonates with me. Bashar says your ability to desire something is your ability to manifest that desire and that anything you can imagine exists. Elias says that you can create a relationship with a specific person no matter how impossible it may seem to you. All channelers say something different and it's matter of finding what resonates with you personally and accepting that as your truth. Even Veronica says over and over that no situation is impossible. You are supposed to have what you desire. If you can imagine being with a specific person, then it DOES exist on some level. There is a version of that person out there that also desires to be with you, and no amount of bad past occurrences can stop that reality from manifesting if you can manage to align with it. I believe that each person creates ALL of their reality, and therefore can experience any reality they want, regardless of what other people create. You will only experience the version of reality that you are aligned with. If it feels good to you to believe that other people can prevent you from manifesting what you desire, then that is your truth. But it does not feel good to me, and therefore is not my truth. There are no limits to what you may create. That is stated over and over by LOA teachers. There is no "except". No limits is no limits.

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