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9/15/2016 3:07 pm  #11


Re: My opinion

I agree.     I feel we can get abything we want.   I feel it can be as specific as possible,   I feel that the only things that get in the way of this, is resistance.

 

9/15/2016 3:09 pm  #12


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Exactly @Dan2015

 

9/16/2016 3:12 am  #13


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Well you attract the situation where you are cheated on but that includes the person too, some people just cheat and you can't really change that too much because it's their desire to live a life without monogamy and we can't create them to have our desires. If you want a loyal relationship, you may not attract them back because they won't desire the same thing but that's OK. If you just want to attract dating and fun, then you might attract them or vica versa. Maybe you desire an open relationship which would be fine too. But you really can't go about changing anyone who doesn't want to change because that doesn't work out so well even with loa. Loa can bring out the good in someone for sure, but the bad will bob around too unless they want to fix it


'What We Think, We Become' -Buddha
 

9/16/2016 4:58 am  #14


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ShootingStar wrote:

Well you attract the situation where you are cheated on but that includes the person too, some people just cheat and you can't really change that too much because it's their desire to live a life without monogamy and we can't create them to have our desires. If you want a loyal relationship, you may not attract them back because they won't desire the same thing but that's OK. If you just want to attract dating and fun, then you might attract them or vica versa. Maybe you desire an open relationship which would be fine too. But you really can't go about changing anyone who doesn't want to change because that doesn't work out so well even with loa. Loa can bring out the good in someone for sure, but the bad will bob around too unless they want to fix it

This is a difference in beliefs, but that's ok. I personally believe there are many versions of a person that you can experience, and that you absolutely can create a monogamous relationship with anyone you want to. Again, if it's something you desire, your ability to desire something is your ability to manifest that desire. It's not a matter of controlling or changing someone. It's a matter of aligning with the version of the person who wants what you want. Everything stems from you. Everyone has their OWN reality. So they can go out and live how they want, but so can you. Because of all the different parallel realities that exist, your choices on what you want to create is not dependent on the choice of any other individual. So, there's no competition with anyone else, there's no cheating/lying, unless you allow that into your reality by aligning with it. When you truly grasp this, you experience so much freedom and realize the only limitations you have are the ones you place on yourself.

Again, it's ok if you believe differently. Studying how the universe works is one of my favorite things to do

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9/16/2016 5:05 am  #15


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I exactly agree to Sunny!!
And this why a person who once "cheated" becomes "loyal" to someone else...

 

9/16/2016 5:20 am  #16


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LoveIsGod wrote:

And this why a person who once "cheated" becomes "loyal" to someone else...

Yes, and why it is even possible to attract a completely different/better relationship with the same person

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9/16/2016 12:21 pm  #17


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Exactly @sunny

 

9/16/2016 4:55 pm  #18


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There is an Abe video about infidelity where a man is talking about the fact that he wants to cheat on his wife but he knows she'll be upset but he has decided that he wants to experience being with other women and doesn't know how to go about that without making his wife upset. Abe answers by saying that he is allowed to change his desire from the original desire to have a monogamous relationship to having an open relationship but he has to be clear to his wife that is his new desire and accept that fact that her desire may not have changed too and he may have to hurt her but if his desire is strong, he should just accept that he will have to hurt her a little bit. It was interesting because you could tell the man had not really fallen out of love with his wife, but clearly is not totally satisfied with her and wants something else for himself now. People are always going to follow their desires if their desires are strong enough and that's another reason why we can't make anyone the condition of our happiness. I personally believe that the best we can do for ourselves and others is to find what makes us happy and then be specific about those things and bring those things in. But if we want to experience an individual because we have a crush on them and want to see what it is to get their best and be with them, that is entirely possible, but it may not be the things that will make us happy. You could have an exciting five month romance with someone and be extremely happy and passionate but then it might end because they might have a drinking habit or they might have the desire to be with many women in their lifetime or they might want to travel or never have kids....but that doesn't mean it's not worth experiencing ! The best love songs are written about passionate romances. So bringing in a specific person to have a relationship with is totally possible ! But it just might not be the exact forever-relationship you have in your mind.Β 


'What We Think, We Become' -Buddha
 

9/16/2016 5:48 pm  #19


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ShootingStar wrote:

There is an Abe video about infidelity where a man is talking about the fact that he wants to cheat on his wife but he knows she'll be upset but he has decided that he wants to experience being with other women and doesn't know how to go about that without making his wife upset. Abe answers by saying that he is allowed to change his desire from the original desire to have a monogamous relationship to having an open relationship but he has to be clear to his wife that is his new desire and accept that fact that her desire may not have changed too and he may have to hurt her but if his desire is strong, he should just accept that he will have to hurt her a little bit.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the teachings of Abe. They've just never really resonated with me. I feel like there's a lot of limitation expressed in them. When it comes to channelers, I prefer the teachings of Elias (Mary Ennis) and Bashar (Darryl Anka). That being said, I agree that the man being discussed here is allowed to change his desire, but Elias has said that you could be in a relationship with an individual and in your reality have them be entirely faithful to you, while in their reality they are seeing other people. He said it's not a delusion, you can be creating differently but still be participating with each other. And he really puts emphasis on how your reality is not dependent on the choices of others, only what you choose to experience. That just resonates with me more. Because that really is "no limitation". Some teachers say we have no limits, but then express some form of frustrating limitation. That's just my belief, though.

ShootingStar wrote:

People are always going to follow their desires if their desires are strong enough and that's another reason why we can't make anyone the condition of our happiness.

I absolutely agree with you on this. You cannot make your happiness conditional on the actions of others. Or your choices, for that matter.

ShootingStar wrote:

You could have an exciting five month romance with someone and be extremely happy and passionate but then it might end because they might have a drinking habit or they might have the desire to be with many women in their lifetime or they might want to travel or never have kids....

You're right, these things might happen, BUT having an exciting relationship that happens for the rest of your life can happen also. It's not out of your control. It all depends on what you believe you can create and if you allow fears of them leaving you, etc into your vibration. It's really all about focusing on you and what you are creating. Everything reflects you.

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9/16/2016 11:29 pm  #20


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To reply on ShootingStar's message.  If the wife's desire to be with his husband forever would be very strong then universe will always try to sustain it for her.  So this guy might started dating others but may get ditched or realize his wife is way more amazing to be with. Or if the man's desire is stronger then it might happen that the wife lose interest in him or find herself another guy or anything.  So in this case both husband wife may attract their desires.  But at the end whoever has stronger belief will have their desires survived.  So you can still be with a man who cheated you,  maybe later they realise how wrong they were and find you the most attractive person on this planet.  If we keep taking scores  so much of what have happened then there will always be resistance to attract anything.  So just focus on what experience you want rather than analysing what this person may do to you or his desires. 

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