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All I was saying is that this isn't as easy as "we" all make it out to be. If it was that easy, all of us would already be back with our loves. I make my post, and those whom respond feel attracted to respond. As far as how do I work on believing.. Going 6 days no contact and getting them back, doesn't really help my belief, only because 6 days really isn't a whole lot of time. I'm not undermining you or your story.. It just isn't my story. I'm happy for everyone who has had success with all of this
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All I was saying is that this isn't as easy as "we" all make it out to be. If it was that easy, all of us would already be back with our loves. I make my post, and those whom respond feel attracted to respond. As far as how do I work on believing.. Going 6 days no contact and getting them back, doesn't really help my belief, only because 6 days really isn't a whole lot of time. I'm not undermining you or your story.. It just isn't my story. I'm happy for everyone who has had success with all of this
I was wondering since it has been so long, and I can FEEL the frustration of not having success, I assume he can too..let's just say this WAS easy...first rule of thumb is that we love them unconditionally and we are doing this with love right?
So by now...should you truly love him, you accept as HARD as it is that HIS happiness is currently with someone else and you're ok with that right, because you love him. You aren't frustrated because you're living your life detatched. THAT for ME is why I believe we are here for each other...to get to figuring out HOW to be detached and holding each other accountable so we become a fabulous version of what anyone would be attracted too, even an ex who has a new girlfriendπ
So remain opened to the suggestions and for those giving them remember its annoying to hear repeated stories but remember heart break is even worse!
Regroup guys we are in this together. And if YOU TRULY feel like giving up...DO IT!
Honestly we should all, at least one whole day of giving up the stress of focusing on anything other than getting a grip in what life we want and knowing each other. I think rolling rocks regroup post was a perfect idea...and the change is so refreshing.
A real time out is helpful and a longer time out maybe needed for someone so full of emotions.
Hell about a month ago I went from being in love to this **** don't work. cotton told me to carry my tail home somewhere and get it together. That week of no talk or focus about my guy lead to remembering how dag on fabulous and cute I am...how funny my kid is...how loud my niece and nephew were...how the taste of frozen apple juice tastes, how much fun it is to say NO, how ugly people are when you're not pleasing them...and the BEST how amazing it is to actually sleep ALONE without wishing his hot, sweaty, snoring, hog covering, holding me all night ass was NOT being there for one night...o actually stopped crying and sent more love his way because he feel in love with someone who kept up with herself not someone who was sad, needy, crying , sitting around waiting, arguing and demanding ( all things we can become when breaking up.)
If you have time look up Lisa Brown, The courage to win.
It's a short course that you pay for but there is a great download for saving a relationship.
It is not completely LOA related BUT mas insightful!
Basically all relationships are ruined when you don't control or own your own ****. And from reading most of our post... WE ALL HAVE, WERE, ARE, OR LEARNING how too.
Once you get it that some relationships are repaired by the logic of necessity then you can find peace in the current situation to help you focus through it better.
For instance...you said he is better with you and you for him...in the idea of the book, you're being demanding and self centered. In no means am I saying it is intentionally being done but through the book it explains the who are you and why or what have you done to even be able to say this. When you take a real self evaluation of I'd you QUALIFY for the role should you not expect the audience member in your sender IP to think so highly of you too if you haven't put in the work to own it..Make sense? So the course helps you put in the work..I bought it. Actually I'll try to find it and put it in the media area here because it changed my relationships alot! Mainly at work. With LOA and the knowledge I do run into frustrating days but I know I'm impatient and guy what happens...he takes two steps forward and one back because i do t know how to wait and work..so he slips away a bit again.
Hopefully I didn't ramble too much. I'd want you to still hang in there and right now work on loving him...and be happy that he is currently living and loving...even if it isn't you right know and keep working on validating tour worth for why your lovable so it actually attached itself to you...and I suggested dating not for no reason.
Dating helps with the bruised ego And gives you some entertainment...what you gonna talk about when you do finally see him? Surely not the forum...he will have plenty of experiences with someone to chat about... shouldn't you...also it helps polish your Interpersonal communication!!! You NEED this trust me. It helps finding power in being the chooser after being rejected...it reminds you that you're sighted out and NOT yesterdays news. But I'd you're not ready then I understand... friends are a perfect substitute...date them and go out, where date clothes ,get sezy, dance, learn new musicians ,go to see local bands and here is why...if your man was a week away and he said I wanna see you...an awesome answer is perfect I know this seafood spot with a live house band meet me at 8.
How confident of you..new of you and more you, you know the place because you went and you can engage in the atmosphere instead of worrying what to talk about...it's gonna be great one way or the other because we are here too!
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Sam wrote:
iinikkii wrote:
Sam wrote:
Well if you believe that circumstances make a difference then that's fine but it's only making things harder for you. It's so much easier when you understand that you are the one who created those circumstances so there's no reason you can't change them. If we differ in this belief then I simply will be no help to you. Good luck on the rest of your journey. π
Well of course it's easy for you to say that. But it's all good.. I'm just confused as to why you weren't able to drop your resistance as far as your most recent ex.. Considering circumstances don't matter and that this is so easy.
You say "weren't" as if it's over but it's never really over. There's always another chance. Yes, I have resistance but it's moreso just doubt about myself than it is about him. But I'm working on it. I choose to believe that I will overcome it. It's almost as if you're looking for reasons NOT to believe. You say you want to hear from people who have actually manifested their ex but I'm assuming you've already spoken to Veronica and Cherished, so what's really going to help you if not them? What do you expect to come from these posts if you just try to debunk everything everyone says to you? How will that serve you?
Edit: Just for clarification, I am asking these questions to try and get you to think about this a little deeper so we can figure out what exactly your resistance is so we can address it.
I really don't know what's holding me back, that's the thing. I whole heartedly believe he is the one for me. No other guy in the world has ever made me want to take such a journey as this. EVER! and not only that.. I've always known he was the one for me. Maybe my resistance is how long it's been, the circumstances that took place during and after he left, the new girl. It's really tough for me to not notice all these things. I can be happy about other things in my life, and I am. Really. It's just THIS part of my life that I can't figure out
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It's hard(if you make it that) Β but you really have to get to the point where you're happy whether your love comes back or does't come back, that does't mean give up, it means.. take your focus off of them for a little... try to have fun.. do things you enjoy.. keep busy.. Β the more busy you are, the more you don't really have the time to think about them... Β plus like everyone else says, you have to REALLY 100 percent believe that they are coming back... and once you believe that, you can live life happily and not worry about when or how..
for example, I don't have my love back yet.. but I'm still happy without her.. it's just the icing on the cake with her.. but as a whole, I'm happy regardless, as corny and lame as it sounds... it's a blessing to wake up every day... it's a blessing to have things like food,water,shelter,etc.. Β once you can start re-appreciating the littlest things in life, you'll be on your way.Β
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I was reading Inkii's thread over on the Abe forum, and amongst the fantastic responses was this little gem.. "You don't have to let it go, you have to let it BE."
Ahhhhhhhh! πππΌπ
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I was reading Inkii's thread over on the Abe forum, and amongst the fantastic responses was this little gem.. "You don't have to let it go, you have to let it BE."
Ahhhhhhhh! πππΌπ
I'm lurking around there too and it's wonderful to read.
iinikkii, you say you are happy with other areas of your life. Why not changing the subject for a while? I know, that it sounds like giving up or a waste of time, but Abraham doesn't say that to get you to forget about your desire. They say it, so that you can get closer to your desire. It really doesn't matter why your vibration is high. When you are happy, your desires come to you. I know it needs a leap of trust, but that would be a way to lessen your resistance a little.
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Just found a Abe audio that could be interesting for you:
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iinikkii wrote:
And that is completely ok. You have zero obligation o respond to me at all! That's your choice. I will appreciate you when you do, and no hard feelings when you chose not to.
I'm just not gonna lie and say that I'm no doing ANY of this to get him back. Because that would be a lie. I had him, I lost him, I got deeply depressed, I really desire another chance with him, I found loa/Abe, I found Veronica and this forum, and here I am still holding the desire to reconcile. For me to say that none of this is to get him back, I would be lying to me, you and everyone else and God/universe.
If you find me aggrivating.. I apologize. But not really, because I'm not making the post for you specifically. I'm no different than anyone else who comes here and vents/ ask questions/ needs help.. Etc. any you might find me aggrivating because I am aggrivated. People come here and ask questions on what to do and how to do it.. And the answers are way too easy. Just feel better and love yourself. And most of the time the responses come from those whom HAVENT got their guy back. Nothing wrong with that, we are all here to help each other. But when I get advice from someone whom also is pretty much sitting in the same seat I am, it makes me wonder. Now Cherished on the other hand.. She has been there, been through it and come out on the other side with exactly what she wanted. So her Advice really does feel inspiring and helpful. ( if only I could get on her level) same for cotton.. But when I get advice from one whom didn't get their guy, got someone else, or gave up all together.. It really doesn't seem beneficial to me
I'm not saying any of this as an insult of ANY kind .. And in also not refering to you in the above statement. I do very very very much enjoy reading your (Sanshi) post. Very very much so!
But what I was getting at is , we get these answers that make it sound SOOOOO FLIPPING EASY! So I get my hopes up.. And yah. Here I am. Down in the dumps because it really hasn't been very easy for me.
Sometimes when you are leaving a room, it's best to just say goodbye and leave.
1- this is a forum where people collectively support and advise each other. If you feel that you need advice only specifically from someone who has attracted their guy back then stay away from the board and contact them directly. Don't devalue the advice that others have given you.
2- would it be more accepting to you if the advice came in a complicated package. Example you are 20kg overweight and go to seek advice from a Dr and he says "eat less, move more". That's is the only advice that is needed. It's easy direction. It's as simple as that. However the application of it may not be easy, but that doesn't distract from the fact that the advice/answer is easy.
3- Don't shoot the messenger in this journey. I'm not going to appraise your application to change your life because it not my business - but the simple fact is that you choose your life direction.
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Oasiscalm wrote:
Sometimes when you are leaving a room, it's best to just say goodbye and leave.
1- this is a forum where people collectively support and advise each other. If you feel that you need advice only specifically from someone who has attracted their guy back then stay away from the board and contact them directly. Don't devalue the advice that others have given you.
2- would it be more accepting to you if the advice came in a complicated package. Example you are 20kg overweight and go to seek advice from a Dr and he says "eat less, move more". That's is the only advice that is needed. It's easy direction. It's as simple as that. However the application of it may not be easy, but that doesn't distract from the fact that the advice/answer is easy.
3- Don't shoot the messenger in this journey. I'm not going to appraise your application to change your life because it not my business - but the simple fact is that you choose your life direction.
I love the losing weight example. It's so true. We always feel the need to make it more complicated than it has to be. LoA is simple, but not easy to implement in our daily life, because we have learned a complete different way of living. It's the same with tying one's shoes. It's simple to understand when someone says to you, that it would be better for you to start with the left shoe after you have tied the right shoe first for your whole life. But it's hard to apply in every day life, because you don't think about it and you are in a hurry sometimes. We have to break the habbit first before we can apply it.
But back to the brilliant losing weight example. What you do right now is eating less for a few days, going back to eating tons of food for another few days, going on the scale and complaining that you haven't lost weight yet and that it has to be more complicated to lose weight than the doctor said.
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Hey there!
I don't know how would you take my thoughts but I'll give it a try.
It's true that it's not easy, when I first encountered LOA, I got amazed but hadn't applied it correctly. Until I got in this state of mind where I finally saw things clearly idk how it came to me it just did. I guess it's because I longed for it. Perhaps you mght want to pray/wish to have a clear state of mind first.
I got frsutrated along the way too but I told myself I should have discipline. It's true, it's like losing weight or mastering a skill. It takes practice and repetition. When you reach this, you'll find it's really true and kt works.
For 2 years, i've been longing to be able to study at my dream univ. First attempt: my entrance exam scores didn't make the cut. Second: I studied in a diff school then transferred, even with high grades, circumstances wasn't on my favor. Third: this time with the right mindset, LOA applied. I made it!!! Here I am now and everything feels good
Trainings: i always wanted to have a proper training in dancing since hs which was 2014 but haven't found how or where. Since January, i had been attending workshops, the money and the classes were all available to me now.
Also, i've been having a hard time learning this guitar fingerstyle, I watched videos of guitar playing like this and I imagined myself being able to do that then proceed to learning. And i've been playing--i could say in an advanced level for almost a year now
Car: I was unconsciously using LOA at that time, i was always looking at diff cars whenever I'm on the road and memorizing their model. After a month, to my suprise i got home and my mom bought a new car!! This was May 2015.
And oh when my grandma had pneumonia, I looked it up how could i apply LOA in this. I INFLUENCED her to set her mindset in a healing one. I use encouraging words shared to her some LOA and told her ideas that only suggests healing and of course, pictured her all well in my mind. The doctor was insisting on having her confined if it didn't heal with a week or 2 as it could be very dangerous with her age. And guess what? She was healed!! Only by home treatment and her faith got even stronger.
With the person i'm attracting back: we broke up dec 2014, got back on feb/march 2015 then broke up again in april and on nov 2015 I started applying LOA sjnce then things had been going really well. We hang out during chirstmas vacay, greeted me first on new year's eve, got an apology/miss you message, hang out last thurs etc. (i posted it under success stories, "Closer & closer to it now..") chatted often. We're not fully there YET but with the other success i'm having and here too, I'm so confident now. This is such a long way compared to when we were apart and things were really bad I got blocked on fb and she even avoided me whenever she sees me at school/church. It really hurt. But now, i barely even remember it happened, i had forgiven er and all i could recall was the good memories. Makes me smile all the time. )
It's just the timing and the way that differs. All we could do is our fix our mindset, really focus on improving yourself, do te things you love, learn new things. Never lose faith. Never frustrate.
Veronica and this forum truly helped me. If it wasn't for them, I could've been stuck with my old negative ways. I thank god for them.
There are no easy ways in gettjng what you want. I suggest you relax first and take a break. i'm sure in that time, you'll eventually find peace and proceed to your goals.
Hope i helped even a bit. bless you
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