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7/04/2016 11:27 am  #1


Query about something Abe said about expansion in relationships

So, I've heard videos by Abe talking about relationships when someone wants to be with their guy/girl again.  And what seems to come through is the idea of two people getting together, loving one another, and then causing expansion or you could say 'growth' in the relationship and then not matching up to their new creation or keeping up with the expansion.  And this is most likely when fears/insecurities come up, arguments etc  And Abe seems to say that because you're vibrationally at a different point by then, that you're creating new 'preferences' that would become the 'next' relationship, for example.  Not explaining it very well but I hope you understand what I mean?  So, if this is true, then why would anyone go back to the past lover?  How is it that what Veronica seems to be saying, is that we can create a new relationship with our recent lover, ie becoming a vibrational match again to each other and then carrying on from there?  But, this time, obviously, we have 'tools' within our means because we know how it all works and so therefore, it's perfectly possible and feasible to have a 'new ideal' relationship with the same partner.  Can anyone expand on this please? 

So, from what everyone on here has been saying, is that as each one of us raises our own vibration/self love etc and then also focusses upon/gives our attention to, our guy/girl, that somehow brings them into alignment with us?  Making them a match again????


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7/04/2016 11:48 am  #2


Re: Query about something Abe said about expansion in relationships

Ah, I wanted to draw something for you, I still have it in the back of my mind. That would answer a part of your question.

I see it that way: You don't have to become a match to your guy, but to the relationship you want with your guy and by sending out this vibration, he catches up after a while (subconsciously).
Abe say the moment you  have a desire, it holds the potential to be realised. I also heard them say that every desire has the potential of expansion within, because the only reason you have desires is expansion. The desire is the tool for expansion so to speak. No desire without expansion, no expansion without desire. You have the desire, right? So it has the potential for expansion within it. Of course you learn from every relationship and sometimes after a breakup, you feel that nothing is left. You don't want every ex back, right? So you take everything you learned from that relationship and move on to a better one. But if you have the desire to be with your ex, then that's completely achievable, just because you have it.
And think about it, you are not the same person you were in the last days of the relationship, are you? You expanded and so did your guy. So it would be a completely new relationship with two completely new persons involved and therefore new potential for expansion.


"Self-abandonment. That is the secret. We have to abandon ourselves to the state, in our love for the state, and in so doing live the life of the state and no more our present state. And to make the state alive, one must become it."

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7/04/2016 11:56 am  #3


Re: Query about something Abe said about expansion in relationships

wow thank you so much,
susiewoo and sanshi
this makes so much sense, I'm so glad you guys brought this up.
I've never thought of it this way, and I think it's extremely helpful for me.

"No desire without expansion, no expansion without desire."
^ best quote ever.

 


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7/04/2016 1:09 pm  #4


Re: Query about something Abe said about expansion in relationships

When zou are the best for you, partner picks that up. We evolve almost everyday. Plus, there are numerous ways to improve the relationship with everyone. Selfimprovement is the key to a growth, growth births new ideas, new passions, so life is the beautifull journey because it is filled with wonder and because you are filled with wonder. Explore and love!

 

7/04/2016 1:13 pm  #5


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Oh yes, Sanshi, makes perfect sense, all of that.  It's true coz after I left a long term relationship before this one, there was no desire to get back together, it had outlived its purpose for sure.  But the desire is there for this one, hence why I'm here, lol  I can see potential for good times and further growth.  And I've thought about this idea of expansion and everything you said makes sense there.  So, now, doing the energy work and putting out the vibe/picture of us together in the way I know it can be, it sort of changes the dynamics of the relationship, and this is what I see now whenever we are together.  It all feels really good and perfectly natural, exactly as though we've found a new fresh way of being with no problem.  but, that brings me onto another question.

Does it matter what they feel/think about the relationship?  For example, If they have made up their mind it's not what they want.  Do we really have the influence, and I know the answer to this as I'm typing, but I'd love to hear anyone else say it, haha  So, it's always what 'we' want, no matter what.  And because they are the object of our attention/focus in a deliberate way for being together etc.  that makes them change their mind about us???? lol
Pretty cool huh?  How does that happen?  It's just amazing!!!!

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7/04/2016 1:14 pm  #6


Re: Query about something Abe said about expansion in relationships

Severis94 wrote:

When zou are the best for you, partner picks that up. We evolve almost everyday. Plus, there are numerous ways to improve the relationship with everyone. Selfimprovement is the key to a growth, growth births new ideas, new passions, so life is the beautifull journey because it is filled with wonder and because you are filled with wonder. Explore and love!

Awww, that's lovely Severis


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7/04/2016 1:26 pm  #7


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Susiewoo wrote:

Does it matter what they feel/think about the relationship?  For example, If they have made up their mind it's not what they want.  Do we really have the influence, and I know the answer to this as I'm typing, but I'd love to hear anyone else say it, haha  So, it's always what 'we' want, no matter what.  And because they are the object of our attention/focus in a deliberate way for being together etc.  that makes them change their mind about us???? lol
Pretty cool huh?  How does that happen?  It's just amazing!!!!

Counter question: Why do they think/feel the way say do about the relationship? Why do you like some people and don't like others? Why do relationships with friends change, why are you close with someone for a few months and after that you rarely see each other? Are that decisions you make consciously? Or is it more a feeling you just have? And if the latter is the case, where does this feeling come from? The logical answer from a LoA point of view would be you are picking up on the toughts and feelings of the other person (=their vibration). I don't know why people hold on to that free will thing. Why makes singing me feel wonderful and playing chess not so much? I don't know, I never made the conscious choice. I can't force myself to enjoy something. I can't force myself to like someone. It's all just there without my free will. Sometimes my preferences change, but I don't make the conscious decision to like someone who I haven't liked before or the other way around. We need a paradigm shift here, a whole new way of thinking.


"Self-abandonment. That is the secret. We have to abandon ourselves to the state, in our love for the state, and in so doing live the life of the state and no more our present state. And to make the state alive, one must become it."

Neville Goddard ~ The Law and the Promise
 

7/04/2016 1:59 pm  #8


Re: Query about something Abe said about expansion in relationships

I was more thinking along the lines of how do we attract them if they already have made up their minds about what they want/don't want re: the relationship?  Do they not have free will then?  Our will becomes theirs or influences their thinking?

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7/04/2016 2:07 pm  #9


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That was the point I was trying to make here. I don't believe in free will. Our vibration affects their thoughts about us.


"Self-abandonment. That is the secret. We have to abandon ourselves to the state, in our love for the state, and in so doing live the life of the state and no more our present state. And to make the state alive, one must become it."

Neville Goddard ~ The Law and the Promise
 

7/04/2016 2:10 pm  #10


Re: Query about something Abe said about expansion in relationships

Thank you!  So, if we emit a loving vibration everytime we think of them, they will respond to that and be 'drawn' to us because it feels good?


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