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7/03/2016 5:00 pm  #1


I'm going places I don't want to go in my head so ... I need help

My object of affection is serious with his relationship : whatsap pictures, Instagram, she's literally everywhere. Now when I saw them I thought she wasn't anything to worry about but I didn't realize he was this serious about her.

I'm needing help to align but most of all I'm dealing with guilt : what if they're super happy and meant to be together ? I can visualize until until I'm blue in the face it won't change anything and if it does it makes me a heartless *****.

I'm curious to read other opinions as how to deal with this situation that is t any because in the end he s not my ex just someone specific I completely had my heart set on.

I said I didn't mind if we don't end up together and THAT universe quickly and wholeheartedly delivered... You can't see it but I'm rolling my eyes. As much as I know I'm fine without and I'll survive : seriously though ? What kind of a ask believe receive is this ? Where is the amazing relationship with him I have been asking ?

I realized all these get your ex back threads and posts and advice did do one thing : it got me an ex back who is actively seeking me out ... Not the specific person that I was looking for

Soooooooooooooooo... Now what ?

Cherished is trying to exorcise the insecure devil out of me bit it's soooooooo HARD!!!


In the end everything will be okay, if it's not okay then it's not the end. In the meantime everyday and in every way I AM better and better.

It's done 😘
 

7/03/2016 5:16 pm  #2


Re: I'm going places I don't want to go in my head so ... I need help

The problem is that people have their opinion about how the world functions, and then they hear about LoA and try to integrate LoA in their old world view. And that simply doesn't work. You have to be willing to give up your old world view and search for new models.
My world view is kinda incomplete, so I haven't found the ultimate answer to my own questions yet, but think about it for a moment. LoA says that our world reflects our vibration. If we try to integrate this in our world view, we have a problem. Let's say you are vibrating on the right frequency to have a happy relationship with your guy. But the other girl vibrates at a happy relationship frequency as well, so who gets the guy? In this model, the girl had to have fears of losing the guy, so that you can attract him. But that's against another premise of LoA: It works every single time. So either it doesn't work every single time and it's a lottery, or your model of the world is wrong. You can't prove one or the other, so you can choose which one you prefer.

The only model in which LoA can work properly is the parallel reality thing (or at least I can't think of another possibility). And when every single possibility exists, you don't have to feel guilty. Just because you live the reality that you get your guy back doesn't mean that the girl experiences the same.


"Self-abandonment. That is the secret. We have to abandon ourselves to the state, in our love for the state, and in so doing live the life of the state and no more our present state. And to make the state alive, one must become it."

Neville Goddard ~ The Law and the Promise
 

7/03/2016 5:35 pm  #3


Re: I'm going places I don't want to go in my head so ... I need help

Sanshi wrote:

The problem is that people have their opinion about how the world functions, and then they hear about LoA and try to integrate LoA in their old world view. And that simply doesn't work. You have to be willing to give up your old world view and search for new models.
My world view is kinda incomplete, so I haven't found the ultimate answer to my own questions yet, but think about it for a moment. LoA says that our world reflects our vibration. If we try to integrate this in our world view, we have a problem. Let's say you are vibrating on the right frequency to have a happy relationship with your guy. But the other girl vibrates at a happy relationship frequency as well, so who gets the guy? In this model, the girl had to have fears of losing the guy, so that you can attract him. But that's against another premise of LoA: It works every single time. So either it doesn't work every single time and it's a lottery, or your model of the world is wrong. You can't prove one or the other, so you can choose which one you prefer.

The only model in which LoA can work properly is the parallel reality thing (or at least I can't think of another possibility). And when every single possibility exists, you don't have to feel guilty. Just because you live the reality that you get your guy back doesn't mean that the girl experiences the same.

As usual Sanshi, very inspiring perspective . The crux of the issue is the integrating this new paradigm with the old belief system : they clash. My old system is solid that it wins everytime.
Now I don't what this other woman's history is - for all I know she's not into him, or she's still hing up on an ex or she's very insecure and eventually something might give.

What I do need to focus on is what I'm trying to manifest - but it's a tricky one when my reality clashes and the change can happen based on me changing what I believe but it's so engrained in me that I feel like I'm
Fighting a listing battle.

As cherished says I should be a ninja and focus on controlling my thoughts- I do have things to be grateful for. But in cases like these the bad outweighs the good and I don't know how to stay happy go lucky positive fun times without remembering that he's very weary of serious relationships ao for him to be open about this one it has to really mean something to him.

And so I go into victim me mindset and think I'm
A loser for wanting to be with someone who as it appears in this reality I have not been with (though at some point it seemed like I was close ) and now there is another block added to the journey.

I get to see that he can be head over heels, that he can care, that he can commit.- only he didn't want it enough with me - it's. Doozy ! How do we revert from this one ?


In the end everything will be okay, if it's not okay then it's not the end. In the meantime everyday and in every way I AM better and better.

It's done 😘
     Thread Starter
 

7/03/2016 6:30 pm  #4


Re: I'm going places I don't want to go in my head so ... I need help

Why are you even giving the other girl that kind of brain power? Who cares what her backstory is- this is entirely irrelevant. You have to wish her well and trust that when you and ur specific guy end up together, that frees her up to meet the true love of HER life! Because you choose this guy. He's yours. What holds you back is your insistence on viewing this from a logical mindset. And LOA is not logical. Manifestation is completely and entirely a spiritual exercise.

You have to be willing and able to let go of facts and logic, evidence that contradicts your desire and basically everybody else's opinions. You have to become one with Neville!: β€œTherefore, when you know what you want, you must deliberately focus your attention on the feeling of your wish fulfilled until that feeling fills the mind and crowds all other ideas out of consciousness.”

It's not about trying to figure a way, it's about ALLOWING this new idea to slowly percolate and permeate and breathe and GROW. Stop telling the story about why you CAN'T do this, and look at the possibility that you CAN!


If you imagine it in your mind..
Believe it in your heart..
Feel it in your soul..
You will hold it in your hand πŸ’žΒ 
 

7/04/2016 4:16 am  #5


Re: I'm going places I don't want to go in my head so ... I need help

Cherished wrote:

What holds you back is your insistence on viewing this from a logical mindset. And LOA is not logical. Manifestation is completely and entirely a spiritual exercise.

It's not about trying to figure a way, it's about ALLOWING this new idea to slowly percolate and permeate and breathe and GROW. Stop telling the story about why you CAN'T do this, and look at the possibility that you CAN!

Love that.


"Self-abandonment. That is the secret. We have to abandon ourselves to the state, in our love for the state, and in so doing live the life of the state and no more our present state. And to make the state alive, one must become it."

Neville Goddard ~ The Law and the Promise
 

7/04/2016 5:02 am  #6


Re: I'm going places I don't want to go in my head so ... I need help

I agree Sanshi, that line was pretty bad ass.

Cherished as usual you totally get me : I'm a logical person and this loa business makes absolutely no logical sense to my reasoning mind. On top of that I tend to feel like a bit of an idiot when I find myself trying to figure out whys because that's what my reasoning mind would do.

And as much as there are more people who don't succeed ( let's be real bless us) the ones that do ( shout to you cherished and your successful possee ) show that somewhere somehow it might be possible because there can't be that many coincidences.

It seems easy on the surface but this stuff is super difficult to do because as human beings with emotions well we emote and allowing those things to come up and find a way to ignore what triggers them is some serious mental schizophrenia at times.

Do I want the guy ? Yes - but not at the expense of my sanity and this whole time I have seriously been insane : constantly doing the same thing and expecting to change. I'm constantly trying to prove to myself that I can do it and the more I do the more it eludes me because when trying to prove something I'm basically saying that I have something to prove.

Allowing is what I guess I need to focus on beginning with allowing the possibility that it might be a bust and it might not work out , just like the possibility exists that this might be the biggest plot twist in the history of romcom plot twists and I should sell the rights to Hollywood. It also means allowing and accepting that I can't make it happen, I don't have that control nor ability -

My biggest take away from what you said cherished is that this is a full on spiritual thing and brain synapses have nothing to do with it.  Neville says ignore your senses and deny the reality and you will succeed. Neville was a little crazy, enough to believe that out of nothing you can change circumstances with your mind. I'm not sure I'm crazy enough ...

I could be so close despite the circumstances but I could also be waiting for something that might never actually happen because the majority of us unfortunately do not have he superpowers to succeed in the endeavor -


In the end everything will be okay, if it's not okay then it's not the end. In the meantime everyday and in every way I AM better and better.

It's done 😘
     Thread Starter
 

7/04/2016 5:23 am  #7


Re: I'm going places I don't want to go in my head so ... I need help

You were trained to think logical for your whole life. It's nothing that you can change in an instance. Take you time. No reason to feel like an idiot. Everyone has these problems at first.

Yes, there are many people who don't succeed in getting an ex back, but there are also many people who never master playing the piano. Does that mean that it isn't possible for them? No, that just means they don't practice enough. Like you said, way too many people on this forum have success. It can't be a coincidence. But there are also people who telling their story over and over again and just don't get it. You can talk about mastering the piano for years, but if you don't do it, you won't ever master it. You have to put the work in. But most people confuse work with physical action and they script, visualise and so on but their thoughts go all over the place the rest of the day. I can't remember one person on this forum who was always in the right vibration and wasn't able to attract the person back.

You don't have the control over circumstances but you have full control over your vibration and that's what alters the circumstances. I believe that everyone can get an ex back or a specific person. If not, it wouldn't be a law. But you have to concentrate on what you want and everytime you post here, you are talking about this other girl and how you are not together yet and how you want to give up. What do you expect when that is what you are sending out?

I agree with you. Not everyone is able to do it and for some people, it would be really better and healthier to go for someone else (I'm not talking about you). However, everyone has to make this decision for themselfs in the end.


"Self-abandonment. That is the secret. We have to abandon ourselves to the state, in our love for the state, and in so doing live the life of the state and no more our present state. And to make the state alive, one must become it."

Neville Goddard ~ The Law and the Promise
 

7/04/2016 5:39 am  #8


Re: I'm going places I don't want to go in my head so ... I need help

Thank you Sanshi because you definitely speak to my logical mind. Between you and cherished Who speaks to my heart j should be able to have both ends covered

What you say makes absolute sense : the piano is a wonderful example because I do play an instrument myself and nothing can make you master it without hours long of practice. But see that completely depends on me, my instrument doesn't go anywhere or do anything without my actioning it.

This vibration thing is so abstract Its a bit trickier because tangibly I'm dealing with things I can't touch, see or put away - i do know when I feel good it's technically a good thing and good things happen but I also know when I don't feel good I get weary of the monsters of the shadows in the back of my mind that can come out in my reality.

You're right my story has been pretty consistent and is a perfect reflection of what is. My ego wants to go in battle and tell him to go to hell because everybody's the devil and I hate life. and there's the fear : what if I get the guy and I'm utterly miserable ? Well then **** all this for nothing really then I change my mind and find some other object of affection ...

The thought of toying with people like that makes me feel a bit uncomfortable too- I don't know for a fact that manifesting this relationship with result in the happy love story I have in mind... Everyone knows getting the thing is not what makes us happy per se ... We're here working to influence our circumstances into form without real guarantee that it'll make us happy though it will be gratifying.

My concern here is a bit of an ethical thing I can deal with aligning with someone ( interestingly he's been super active on my social media and communicative again which is sooooo confusing ) , but now we're talking about messing with people's relationships because he's not a single man anymore ...

Isn't that also some form of ego ? If they're super happy isn't it unfair for me to throw a tantrum because I wanted him first ?


In the end everything will be okay, if it's not okay then it's not the end. In the meantime everyday and in every way I AM better and better.

It's done 😘
     Thread Starter
 

7/04/2016 6:51 am  #9


Re: I'm going places I don't want to go in my head so ... I need help

I'm a programmer and logic is the very basis of programming. I used to think everything through, and sometimes I still have a hard time stopping my brain.

In my example, your instrument would be your vibration, not your guy, and your vibration can't go anywhere without you letting it happen.

The big problem most people have with LoA is that they have to believe first. When we were children, it was easy to believe all kind of stuff, but when we get older we have to "get real". But unfortunately, that doesn't change how the LoA works. You have two options here. First one is to train yourself back to dreaming your way to your desire. Second one is you let LoA be LoA and obeserve reality as you have done it your whole life. That's your choice and there is no better or worse decision. It's in your hand.
Vibration is nothing more than your thoughts and feelings in every moment. Think back how you felt in your relationship. That's the feeling to need to get your guy back. I think it's not even necessary to actively think about it. It's enough to know that the feelings you have are because of your relationship with him.

If you can really influence people with your mind, then you do it all the time, anyway. You caused the breakup. Do you think your guy wanted that to happen? Why feeling guilty about "stealing" your guy if it's a natural part of our reality? That would mean you are the victim of other peoples thoughts as well (I don't think so btw). Most people are not aware of this, they just use it. Why should you be the only one who doesn't use it to her advantage? But if you can't find a way to feel comfortable about it, maybe it would be better to go for a new guy. People are happy today and breaking up tomorrow. You never know.


"Self-abandonment. That is the secret. We have to abandon ourselves to the state, in our love for the state, and in so doing live the life of the state and no more our present state. And to make the state alive, one must become it."

Neville Goddard ~ The Law and the Promise
 

7/04/2016 8:09 am  #10


Re: I'm going places I don't want to go in my head so ... I need help

The ethical part is really a mute point. Because you do it by default. Every day of your life you are either intentionally or unintentionally attracting. And SURELY you aren't going to say that if its deliberate, then you should just back off and watch everyone else play happy families while you let your own desires float away.. ? If you have the opportunity to deliberately attract what you desire, don't you love yourself enough to believe you are completely worthy of that desire? It's not about coercing some innocent bystander into your lair, it's about raising your vibration to that of an incredible relationship.. and allowing the person you desire to feel that unconditional love.


If you imagine it in your mind..
Believe it in your heart..
Feel it in your soul..
You will hold it in your hand πŸ’žΒ 
 

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