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Thank you so much guys!!
To be honest. I really believe that I am that girl for him that girl who can give him all and be all. Though I should let you know it was my first relationship so people have told me that you don't know how it's really like because I really have nothing else to compare it to.
But really does that really matter? Do I really need to have x number of guys or relationship to know what is real? What is not?
Sometimes I don't know whether things are working for me because I don't have any other ex before this one so I really can't track where my alignment is or progress in this like many of you can. Also, I have not been out on dates... Anyways I'm not ventin here. Just thought I share a bit of me with you.
I understand that we can have whatever it is that we desire. But what about cocreation? For who we want shouldn't there be a desire from them as well?
Much love to all of you
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Love is Real wrote:
you have to ask yourself if you think he could be happier with someone else. that's up to you, isn't it? if you think you can create a fulfilling relationship for both of you, I bet you can do that, if that's what you want.
for me..... there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that NO ONE in this world can make her as happy as I can. We have been together 30 YEARS! No one knows her like I do. No one knows that spot on her back that needs to be rubbed every night. I screwed up because my mind questioned the relationship and I created the split up. so now I have to create the reconciliation. it's the challenge of my life. but one thing I know. I can make her happy like no one else can on this planet and she is going to be SOOOOO glad she came back to me.
Standing aplause. BRAVO. You can do it!
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Great thread, really Beautiful!
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watch this to better understand free will and LOA
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Leli wrote:
watch this to better understand free will and LOA
thanks I watched that video. it was good but I don't really see how it relates to another person's free will. it mentioned free will once and it said basically that people don't have free will, they are controlled by their subconscious mind, not their free will, which I can see as true... but I don't see how that relates to the question at hand here, as to whether or not you can affect another person's actions and/or thoughts with LOA if their conscious mind (free will) is not in direct alignment with your desire at the particular moment. Or whether or not this is ethical or a good idea.
IMHO, I believe it is both possible and ethical, BUT only if the intentions are based on love, compassion, happiness, healing, learning, ....
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Free will is so small that we could say that there is no free will.It is just two words which don't mean anything.
IMHO, I believe it is both possible and ethical, BUT only if the intentions are based on love, compassion, happiness, healing, learning, .... I agree with thoose lines
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i believe that the bigger issue in this context is resistance. it is similar to free will but not the same. If the person you are trying to attract is consciously resistant to being with you, this creates a bigger challenge. it does not make it impossible but there is an added layer that has to be reconciled.
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I would say that people have free will, meaning that even if you could attract someone back without their consent based purely on remote seduction (which I bet you would need to be absurdly powerful at remote seduction to even achieve!) they will not stay with you for very long as you would literally need to put so much effort into influencing them that it wouldn't be viable. So a person has the free will to walk away after they have been attracted back. The only thing I could think of that would actually completely over ride someone's free will for a long time would be brainwashing, like you see with certain cults, however that usually is large scale and not a romantic relationship but a 'religious' alliance that preys on desperate people. I doubt anyone here on this forum intends to keep their partner prisoner, they just want a second chance at attempting a mutually loving relationship and using loa seems like a good way to go about this due to the gentleness of the influence and the positivity and love of the process There are so many programs online about how to get your ex back that are based on pure manipulation and I would have a problem with those, as well as strange forums that seem to advocate emotional abuse and coercion as a form of getting someone to love them..and besides, we attract people all the time, we attracted these people into our lives in the first place, it's most definitely not morally wrong
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Pink wrote:
But really does that really matter? Do I really need to have x number of guys or relationship to know what is real? What is not?
NO FRIGGIN WAY!!!!
My grandparents were married for 75 years. it was the first and only love for both of them. that is pure love.
and for me, my wife and I have been together for 30 years. she was my second girlfriend. i am so in love with her still today and I have learned so much about what love is from her. we are eternally bonded. she's a little confused right now which is why i'm here, but it's just a bump in the road!
if anyone says you can't know what love is until you have been in a bunch of relationships, they are full of crap! there are no rules like that for love. Love is LOVE. that's it.
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ShootingStar wrote:
I would say that people have free will, meaning that even if you could attract someone back without their consent based purely on remote seduction (which I bet you would need to be absurdly powerful at remote seduction to even achieve!) they will not stay with you for very long as you would literally need to put so much effort into influencing them that it wouldn't be viable. So a person has the free will to walk away after they have been attracted back.
I hear what you're saying. But for me, the "after she comes back" part is not a problem. I'm 1000000% sure that as soon as she takes steps back towards me, she is going to know she made the right decision and she is going to be sooooo glad she did. I just need that one tiny thing to happen and the rest is taken care of.
So whether you call it free will or resistance, there is an extra layer of work to do if the person is resisting. That's where I am. But it's nothing more than a reminder to me of how strong my love is. Love is the strongest force in the universe, PERIOD!