I'm saying that what you believe to be true is what you will come to experience. And at the moment your belief and focus is very much on the engagement of 2 other people. You have to take the focus off what you don't want, or you will perpetuate more of that. That is the basis of LOA.

Hmmmm okay, well that actually makes perfect sense when we're talking about emotions bringing on more matching circumstances that match those emotions. That I can see. But in that case, if it's more so about your emotions than your thoughts, how do you really get a specific person back?? Just being happy would guarantee that you get happy experiences back..but it wouldn't guarantee that you get SPECIFIC situations back, such as specific people. So how do you honestly attract specific people, and not just "this or something better"?

lar019 wrote:

LaughBella14 wrote:

So are you saying it's really ME who created their engagement?

I think basically yes, you did. You probably weren't directly thinking "I hope they don't get engaged" - but on some level, were you worried that they would grow closer the more time they spent together? Sometimes the universe brings us exactly what we want, the exact way we imagined it. But sometimes, the universe surprises us, and brings us things in ways we didn't expect - this applies to both negative & positive things. So just because you didn't ask for them to get engaged, or even had the thought they would - doesn't mean that you didn't create it.

My advice to go forward, is to really just take some time for yourself, and focus on you. Figure out what you really want, and then go for it. What helped me in the beginning, to help my believe is thinking "ok, I'm blocked, he's with someone else - there is nothing I can do, no action I can take. So, as much as I don't know if LOA is some bs new fad, or actually real - I might as well try it, because what else can I do?" You need to stop focusing on them, particularly her. Because as you think of them together, the universe is keeping them together. Just because there's a ring, doesn't mean that ring can't come off!! He can easily leave her at any time - he could ditch her at the alter and show up on your doorstep in his tux, begging you to come back! How does that scenario sound?! lol.

Thank you for your insight. I sent you a pm!!! that scenario sounds quite amazing, but I wish I could manifest him back well before that point in time!!!! Well that is exactly what I did do about the situation..I was actively trying to attract him back for the two weeks in between me & her, until he got with her. As soon as they became official, and he wasn't responding to anything I was sending, I said to myself crap, there's nothing I can do now, so all I can do is nothing. I kind of gave up trying, bc I really didn't know what to do. It felt so wrong them being together, so all I said to myself was they aren't gonna last, just sit back and relax, but yet now they're engaged so there goes that. I haven't seen your story at all..has anything been happening for you? Bc you sound like you're in a similar situation of sorts. When you have the time, send me a pm back or just respond on here!!

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Cherished wrote:

You have far too much resistance. You found yourself up against time and you tried to force it back into place. That will never work. And it sounds like you didn't simply relax in your knowing that things would be fine. I get the feeling you were actually beside yourself with worry that this could transpire.

Everyone has free will, of course. And people are either a vibrational match or they aren't. Your desire is a relationship with him, and at the moment you aren't amatch to that. Because you're focussing on THEIR relationship. There is too much resistance for you to make progress. Yes, in your reality he has chosen her. But reality is fluid. Nothing is solid. Change happens constantly. And it happens because we are ALWAYS changing our vibrations and attracting those outcomes. If you could raise your vibration on a different topic that held no resistance, then your relationship would still come about. It's the raising of your vibration that does it, not your constant attention on it. Thoughts produce emotions. And emotions create vibrations. If your vibration is high, you actually become much more influential. And those who you have connected with in your life will naturally feel compelled to move towards you. They have the will to decide if they wish to do so or not, but if you can manage to come from a place of love and openness, they will absolutely reach out. And this isn't coercion, it's natural law of attraction. Veronica has a great video about free will. You are always attracting. Whether you are focussing specifically or not.

Your first paragraph is absolutely correct. I kept telling myself things like I need to get him back before they get together, before he moves in, before he proposes, etc. I have absolutely tried to rush the process, but it's bc I absolutely believe that it shouldn't have to take forever for your desires to manifest quickly. If I could manifest them getting together within 2 weeks, or him proposing to her within a month, shouldn't I be able to manifest him back just as quickly?

And well the second paragraph is exactly what pushes me away from practicing LOA fully and truly believing in it. Maybe I am reading this wrong, but you're saying he has free will, and can choose whether he wants to come back or not, meaning he can choose to not come back ever. To me that invalidates LOA, invalidates saying that you can have whatever it is you ask for, and just turns LOA into something less meaningful now, bc in that case it sounds like loa may not be a real thing & more of a regular 50/50 every day chance of getting what you want or not. That would mean that you can possibly manifest specifics, but possibly can't. And then how would LOA be such a fact then? Hopefully I'm just misunderstanding what you said, but I've heard this too much and it's what stops me from having 100% faith in LOA practice! You either can manifest exactly what you want or you can't. It's either up to you or it's not. Saying that it isn't would mean that someone/something else is still deciding for you. All of that just brings it back to a gamble of maybe you can have it or maybe you can't. That's discouraging, & I don't like whenever I read that, because it turns the whole loa idea into mush for me.

Cherished wrote:

People do have free will,  but if your vibration is high abd your intentions are pure,  they will come and co-create with you.  And their decisions to do so won't be "coerced" by you.  They will naturally be influenced by your radiance,  your steady, clear, wonderful vibration. So it HAS TO happen.  😊 !

I absolutely, completely understand!! So, they can feel all of that from you out of contact --without seeing you, talking to you, and/or being anywhere near you or within distance to you?

One more question, is it enough to just believe that a person will come back into your life in the way that you want them to, or must you use visualization, scripting, other methods, etc? I find that I just get really tired trying to do any of these methods, & I'm not good at visualizing. But I can very easily say to myself something like "HE IS MINE" and feel good about it and then go on with things. Is that good enough, can that work on its own without doing the techniques everyone else does here or anything else?

Thanks Cherished, you're the best! I do see it working for everyone else here, I just wanna see something positive move in my direction also! If it's working for everyone else, i gotta be able to find what works for me as well!!'! 😊😊