Posted by Anita  11/18/2018 2:25 pm | #1 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZE0uxnC9W0 I was post Cynthia´s article about "selflove ant feel good is not necessary to manifest thing " under this video and I asked what is think Veronica about this article, I was curious. And she deleted it
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Posted by PrettyFlamingo 11/18/2018 3:19 pm | #2 |
Contact a moderator to find out.
Be a flamingo in a flock of pigeons.
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Posted by Dan2015 11/18/2018 3:31 pm | #3 |
I could be wrong. But I think Anita meant why did Veronica delete it off her YouTube
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Posted by Anita 11/18/2018 3:45 pm | #4 |
Yes. I think youtube. I was think, she give me her opinion and she rather deleted my question with this article
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Posted by PrettyFlamingo 11/19/2018 2:11 am | #5 |
Better ask veronica then I guess.
Be a flamingo in a flock of pigeons.
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Posted by Selfloveiskey 12/24/2018 11:51 am | #6 |
Probably because Veronica like myself believes self love is something you should have whether you are trying to manifest something or not. That you have self love when you put yourself on a pedastool not the other person and if you don’t feel good without it you are putting the things you want or person on a pedastool because you are saying I need that to feel better or I can’t be happy without this thing. That you shouldn’t need outside things to feel complete or happy. You shouldn’t depend on them. That people usually manifest when they have self love because it removes limiting beliefs about things because you feel complete and at peace already. and dettachment. Like self love isn’t affirmationsnor being happy all the time. It’s being at peace with yourself and being at peace really helps remove attachment and need. She has a video on it and Agnes is also a big supporter of it. As is happiness coach Laura who was on this forum for awhile. Self love helps with a lot of the issues we have manifesting. You can easily accept what is because you don’t need it to complete you. Yeah it would be nice but you don’t revolve your whole life around it. Self love also helps you to allow yourself to feel things that others say hinder manifesting. If you love yourself you won’t be punishing or angry at yourself if you get upset over something you allow it and let yourself feel without being yourself up over it and then it can pass whereas if you beat yourself up it just keeps this cycle if I did a horrible thing getting upset now I won’t have this etc. allowing and detachment are important in manifesting and self love helps you with both. Even though these coaches do believe that there are a lot of people here who don’t. It is proven but y’all think what ya want
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Posted by Selfloveiskey 12/30/2018 5:53 pm | #7 |
fizzy wrote:
Even though these coaches do believe that there are a lot of people here who don’t. It is proven but y’all think what ya want
I’m not here to fight with you, but how does this specific part of what you said make any sense at all?
I get that you are saying Veronica, Agnes, etc are huge supporters of self love. They truly believe in what they teach and have had success with it. That’s wonderful! Good for them.
But just as you say their way of thinking is proven to work, do their experiences suddenly disprove the experiences of others? For example, is Cynthia and many other people suddenly liars when they say they’ve been very successful without self love involved? Why is Veronica’s and Agnes’s way of thinking and experiences more correct or more important than Cynthia’s experiences or anyone else’s? Because they’re “coaches”? ANYONE can write a book or get in front of a camera and do what Veronica and Agnes have done. Cynthia and others could, too. Is that what it would take for you to label her way of manifesting as correct, just as you have done with these coaches?
You claim you shouldn’t put another on a pedestal, and I agree. Veronica and Agnes should not be put on pedestals, meanwhile others who have success in different ways than they do get put down. Everyone is human. Even coaches.
I’m not gonna fight here either. But Cynthia and a few others went out of their way to say self love is not needed to manifest and it wasn’t for them fine but she has no problem saying Neville and then saying disregard others. So if anything isn’t that discrediting others? People can do what they please sure. My message was simply Veronica is more on the self love part and didn’t resonate with your question.
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Posted by excalibar 12/30/2018 7:30 pm | #8 |
I’m not gonna fight here either. But Cynthia and a few others went out of their way to say self love is not needed to manifest and it wasn’t for them fine but she has no problem saying Neville and then saying disregard others. So if anything isn’t that discrediting others? People can do what they please sure. My message was simply Veronica is more on the self love part and didn’t resonate with your question.
I don’t think it’s one or the other, meaning it isn’t ‘self love’ OR ‘Neville’. I do understand one as being more of a broader viewpoint than the other, but both are just modalities with the same underlying truth — you are everything. When you are everything, you can manifest in the way you have and you can also manifest by using Neville’s way of thinking and his methods solely. It doesn’t really matter. What ultimately matters is the understanding of WHO you are, and with it, what you expect. This is just the understanding I have personally come to, so I’m not on either ‘side’ with it. But to answer your question, yes I do think it is discrediting others to say either ‘side’ is more correct than the other. It’s basically like everyone’s way of manifesting is personal and individualized. At least that’s what I think.
What ever works, works. Since everything is about what you believe you can make manifesting how ever you want. You can be your own teacher and master manifester with your own unique ideas and beliefs. You don’t have to listen to Neville or anyone else. Correct me if I’m wrong but I could believe that I don’t need to live in the wis fulfilled to get my desire and manifest exactly that.
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Posted by excalibar 12/31/2018 11:32 am | #9 |
What ever works, works. Since everything is about what you believe you can make manifesting how ever you want. You can be your own teacher and master manifester with your own unique ideas and beliefs. You don’t have to listen to Neville or anyone else. Correct me if I’m wrong but I could believe that I don’t need to live in the wis fulfilled to get my desire and manifest exactly that.
Yes, you can actually manifest through any ‘method’. You could make it so that your desire manifests just by flipping a light switch. I’m not saying it’s easy to get to that level of expectation. But, it is possible. It would take a very strong understanding of who you are and why you have that power.
How do we come to a very strong understanding of who you are and why we have that power?
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Posted by excalibar 12/31/2018 2:41 pm | #10 |
How do we come to a very strong understanding of who you are and why we have that power?
I can’t really answer that because I think that’s different for everyone, too. Everyone is on their own individual journey of growth. When you are ready to learn new information, it will appear. You just have to be open to it. I think applying what you know will help because you will witness your own power when your desire manifests. John Paolucci’s teachings focus solely on who you are, though they aren’t very easy to understand for most people. Focusing on the ‘I AM’ can be seen in Neville’s teachings, as well. You can also do energy mind games/experiments to witness your power. There is a book called E-Squared that’s filled with such experiments.
Fizzy, since you say believing for example, flipping a light switch is all that is needed to manifest your desire is hard but not an impossible thing to believe and experience, isn’t that what you’ll manifest and experience? I believe if you say something to yourself like affirmations than you’ll get to a point where it becomes a belief and manifests. No visualization needed. That’s why believing that I only need a month to manifest something isn’t really a hard thing to believe because of I repeat that to myself than it will soon become my experience?
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