Posted by hopeful.h 3/31/2018 1:40 am | #1 |
**WARNING - LONG STORY - A LOT OF CONTENT**
- Wow, thank you for continuing to read this post.
My sp left me Sept 2017 after 2 yrs. I been diagnosed with Depression and Anxiety for years, so this separation really hurt me. I discovered LOA in Oct 2017. Since then, I've been doing LOA for the past 6/7 months in hopes of re-attracting my relationship with my partner again. In Oct '17, I tried the Magic 28 day practices and vision boards. I listened to affirmations. I initiated contact Nov '17 to grab my items, it was great at first. I wrote on my vision board that we would be together by Thanksgiving. And technically we were. But being together is different than being in a committed relationship. we were flying high again. But he was hot and cold. The day he told me that he wanted to work towards being together again, was the same day he told me that he wasn't ready for any relationship. He said he felt that I was a rebound. We continued our conversation that week and he said sorry for giving me "false hope". And what hurt me most was that he said he didn't want me to be apart of his life again. I thought that I got my manifestation and within a few hours it disappeared like a rubber band snapping back at me. It seems that I picked a fruit before it was ripe. Dec.'17
Dec '17, I fell into a depressive state and was suicidal. But I picked myself up again and pushed harder. I found Agnes' and Veronica's Videos and I listened to most of them. I booked plane tickets to travel to another country, and got 3 additional trips as a gift from my mother. I travelled to 5 destinations within the months of Jan '18- Feb '18. All while listening and meditating to Agnes' videos. I was able to receive a missed Facetime call when I did a manifest a text meditation. That was it.
Since then, it just seems like nothing is working. I tried mediations to receive a text, a call, whispering technique, h'onopono (spell check?) and most importantly self-love. Nothing...But I know that lack of evidence is not evidence of lack. Gotta admit though, it's hard to believe when you see nothing.
Feb '18. I was a production where I was the female lead. he was in the audience. During the meet and greet, he gave me a quick side hug and said "good job." and that was it... The girl that he is currently "talking" to was also in the show as a background dancer. After the show, he came up and gave her flowers along with some other people that were in the show. But he gave me nothing. It even seemed like he tried to avoid me. Seeing that hurt me a lot. Fast forward Mar '18. I heard from a friend of his that he is currently "talking" and "connecting" with that same girl.
In fact, last week, I heard that my sp was "talking" and "connecting" with a female mentee of his, in which I admit I had fear about. I did the rubbing out technique. I felt better, I thought it worked. And then I see both of them together at an event and I cried and sobbed for 2 hours after seeing this. I know that I attracted this and I am working to cancel it. I know that I reacted poorly to that "test" in December, and I told myself that I am going to react differently this time around with the person he's talking to. So, I don't feel suicidal or depressed this time around, because I know it's not the end of my life. Crying was a good thing, because i was just releasing negativity.
FYI, starting from Sept '17, I deactivated all of my social media because I didn't think it was doing me any good. So, I know that I don't stalk or chase him at all, and I haven't. I don't even ask about him from friends. I don't care what he does and I don't want to know what he does. I also don't go to places because I think I will see him there. In fact, I avoid those places. I don't frantically text or call. I started doing activities that I enjoyed, such as theatre and dance. I go out with friends. I've been going to therapy since Oct '17 and have medication to help with my depression and anxiety.
That day after, I recommitted to doing this LOA stuff again. The right way (because i'm assuming that I've been doing it wrong since I started). So, what am I doing currently?
- Joined this forum, found hope again through the stories
- I am on Day 5 of the 25 day challenge
- I am on Day 5 of the Magic 28 day practices
- I start my mornings with a self-love meditation. (based off of the "love yourself like your life depends on it" book.)
- "I love myself" mental loops. "I am loved, I am wanted, I am secure, I am a priority" in mental loops. (Agnes says beliefs are just thoughts repeated over and over again). Yes, I feel a sensation when I do it too.
- I do visualizations as described in the 25 day challenge. Yesterday, I started RS and today I started PW.
- I do scripting.
- I've started to go on walks with my friends' dog, I fill up my schedule more, I eat healthier, I dance (exercise), I take my medication, I treat myself to clothes/food/etc.
- I don't scold my negative thoughts. It's been less and less.
At this point. I am confident that I love myself, I know my self-worth, and etc. I know that I don't need him and that I will be fine without him. But likes Agnes says, everyone is you pushed out. So, if I like his physical features, why not try to be with him?
Today, I saw the girl at an event. I wished her happiness, just not with my partner. When I saw her, I kept thinking and asking her to leave now. Be happy with someone else. I went to an event after, and I saw my person to. I didn't say Hi or do anything. In fact, I only saw the back of his head. I left the event right away since my meter was ending. After that event, I started to feel this weird chest tightening. I'm not sure if it's fear or what it is.
I am literally doing all of the LOA practices and techniques that I know about. It seems like I'm doing everything, I'm suppose to be doing. What am I missing? I'm literally doing LOA on steroids really. LOL
At this point, I want to do LOA the right way and would like to know if there's any additional tips or recommendations on my process, or perhaps why it didn't manifest faster? Why were my meditations not as effective as others who try it? I know that the Universe knows what I want and it will deliver it to me at the right time. I am ready for this relationship after learning from my mistakes and flaws. I believe it in so much. (please give friendly tips and don't shame my mistakes)
Thanks for reading. I will continuously give updates on my progress.
Last edited by hopeful.h (3/31/2018 1:45 am)
Posted by hopeful.h 3/31/2018 1:52 am | #2 |
P.s. a big thanks to @ughchristina, @moomin, and @Selfloveiskey for helping me restart and answer my pm's. I appreciate it!
Posted by Oasiscalm 3/31/2018 1:31 pm | #3 |
Disclaimer : I didn't read much of your post.
But the few sentences that jumped out me, all have the same response and that is to just let go and stay in peace. Search for your own bliss. Not for another technique or process to add to your arsenal.
I don't think there is any reason to do LOA on steroids. One if u are doing it on steroids (consistently and correctly) then you wouldn't be looking for something else to do and you most definitely wouldn't be asking where is he. secondly loa deservs a gentle elegant approach.
It will happen. But in the meantime just focus on being present in the moment. Less is more sometimes.
Posted by hopeful.h 3/31/2018 1:55 pm | #4 |
It's ok that you didn't read the whole post. I think what I'm looking for is not another technique or process, but instead more guidance on how to correctly doing the techniques I'm attempting to do right now.
I also don't ask nor care about his physical whereabouts. But perhaps you are referring to more so "why hasn't this worked?".
I've heard multiple definitions on letting go. In your definition, what is letting go and staying at peace? What should that feel like?
Thanks for your response by the way!
Posted by Cynthia 3/31/2018 2:10 pm | #5 |
I did read your entire post. A couple of things jumped out at me - desperation to get him back (doing or trying to do so many techniques all at once), paying too much attention to the current outward appearances, and not giving things enough time to work and for the situation to change for the better.
Things can change quickly, but it takes as long as it takes. I know it's disappointing to think that you are having fast results, only to find they weren't the results you wanted, but choose maybe a couple of things that you like best and do those for a while. Try to ignore outward appearances as best you can. I have found Neville's revision very helpful. One version of it is where you rewrite in your imagination something that happened or was said in the way you would have wanted it to be. For example, if he said 'I don't ever want you to be my girlfriend' you could imagine him saying 'You're the only woman I'll ever love and the only one I ever want to be with' or anything that is the opposite.
You're doing a lot of things right, especially living your life, going on trips, and not stalking his social media and that sort of thing.
Letting go means letting go of fears, doubts, worries, and other negativity, but not of your desire.
Last edited by Cynthia (3/31/2018 2:12 pm)
Posted by hopeful.h 3/31/2018 3:56 pm | #6 |
Thanks for your reply, Cynthia! I really appreciate your advice. I'm definitely going to try the revision thing. Would you be able to go into more depth on your advice?
" Desperation to get him back (doing or trying to do so many techniques all at once). "
- Should I be doing nothing then? How can I do techniques and visualizations without making it seem like because I am desperate or in need? Is it considered desperation if you perform any LOA techniques? (if you know what I mean).
"paying too much attention to the current outward appearances"
- Could you give advice on how to not pay attention to the outward appearances? Do you mean this as ignoring the current reality? I'd like some guidance on how to do this properly. I think what I've been doing is removing myself from spaces that may include him, because it would remind me of the current reality. Does revision work with this as well?
"and not giving things enough time to work and for the situation to change for the better."
- What do you mean by this? As in, I don't give enough time between my techniques and practices for things to happen? How do I know what is and what isn't enough time?
Thanks again for your help. I really appreciate your help. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!
Posted by Cynthia 3/31/2018 5:13 pm | #7 |
hopeful.h wrote:
Thanks for your reply, Cynthia! I really appreciate your advice. I'm definitely going to try the revision thing. Would you be able to go into more depth on your advice?
" Desperation to get him back (doing or trying to do so many techniques all at once). "
- Should I be doing nothing then? How can I do techniques and visualizations without making it seem like because I am desperate or in need? Is it considered desperation if you perform any LOA techniques? (if you know what I mean).
"paying too much attention to the current outward appearances"
- Could you give advice on how to not pay attention to the outward appearances? Do you mean this as ignoring the current reality? I'd like some guidance on how to do this properly. I think what I've been doing is removing myself from spaces that may include him, because it would remind me of the current reality. Does revision work with this as well?
"and not giving things enough time to work and for the situation to change for the better."
- What do you mean by this? As in, I don't give enough time between my techniques and practices for things to happen? How do I know what is and what isn't enough time?
Thanks again for your help. I really appreciate your help. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!
I think you've misunderstood me somewhat, but I'll try to explain better what I meant.
"Desperation to get him back (doing or trying to do so many techniques all at once). "
- Should I be doing nothing then? How can I do techniques and visualizations without making it seem like because I am desperate or in need? Is it considered desperation if you perform any LOA techniques? (if you know what I mean).
No, I didn't mean to stop doing any techniques at all. What I meant by 'desperation to get him back' was that you were doing so many techniques and seemed to be looking for even more to do, and to me that smacks of desperation, trying to get it to happen right now with doing everything you can possibly think of to do, almost by force, and it's not necessary to do all of those techniques and could easily become overwhelming to do all of those things. I agree with oasiscalm that less is sometimes more, which is why I recommended picking one or two techniques that you really liked and concentrate on doing them for a while. When Neville wanted to marry his second wife, all he did, before he went to sleep at night, was to visualise himself blissfully happily married to her, living together happily in their own home, and he didn't do things like remote seduction. His method was very simple, and it worked a treat for him and also for a woman he told his method to whose story is told in his book The Law and the Promise (I think it's in Chapter three). In her case, against seemingly impossible odds, she attracted her SP to contact her after 30 days, they started dating, and were engaged and then married, all in less than a year. Note that neither Neville nor the woman in the book felt the need to obsess about their SP all day long or do loads of techniques. Imagining it before they went to sleep at night was enough.
"paying too much attention to the current outward appearances"
- Could you give advice on how to not pay attention to the outward appearances? Do you mean this as ignoring the current reality? I'd like some guidance on how to do this properly. I think what I've been doing is removing myself from spaces that may include him, because it would remind me of the current reality. Does revision work with this as well?
Yes, it is the same as ignoring the current reality. It's probably a good idea for now not to go to places where you might expect to find him if it's going to cause any negative feelings for you, but probably the best way of ignoring current reality is to put your mental focus on what you want your reality to become. It's easier said than done sometimes, I know, but all you or anybody else can do is to do your best. Perfection isn't required. Neville said and proved that imagination creates reality, so that's what you want to do - imagine the reality that you want as though it is already true right now. Imagine things the way you want them to be and try not to worry about what is going on in the outside world or what you even think is going on. The only thing you can ever go by is outward appearances because you can never really know what somebody is thinking or feeling or why they are saying or doing the things they say and do, but you really never know, so you (or anybody) can make a lot of wrong assumptions. People say and do things all the time that they don't really mean or might mean for that moment and change later. The only thing that matters is what is going on your mind, what you believe, because you can change your reality by your imagination and beliefs. It doesn't matter what things look like.
Revision can be used for many things and seems to have some variations. Even the above mentioned woman attracting her SP was a form of revision. It really means changing things in your imagination.
"and not giving things enough time to work and for the situation to change for the better."
- What do you mean by this? As in, I don't give enough time between my techniques and practices for things to happen? How do I know what is and what isn't enough time?
What I meant by that was that you had done some techniques for a short time and then had occasion to see your SP again, so what you had been doing had appeared to be working, but things didn't go the way you had hoped they would. It was very early days. I think it was a positive improvement that you had some contact with him, but what I meant was that it could take time to turn the situation around so that you would have positive experiences with him and that it needed more time. It seemed like thoughts of other girls and negative things he'd said about the two of you started being more prominent in your mind at that point, and it's those things that you have to try to ignore because they don't mean anything.The time just isn't quite right for the positive experiences yet, for whatever reason, and it could take a while, so there's nothing to be discouraged about. I know I mention Neville a lot, but that's because he's had a big impact on me, and he said that the only thing that can keep you from having what you want is you, not persisting in imagining the way you want things to be as though you already have them, what he referred to as 'living in the end of the wish fulfilled.' There's a big difference between imagining that your SP is with you now and that you're happy together and only thinking about him being out there somewhere in the world like he's way over there. What you want is the relationship with him, not to think about him existing. I know there are some people who do this - they think about their SP all day long, but they don't imagine the two of them already being happily together as if it is an accomplished fact. You have to be patient and persist in imagining having the end result you want, and when things start to fall into place, you will know that it's happening, but keep imagining it all the same. That woman I mentioned above said that even when her SP had contacted her and they were dating she didn't know how he felt about her, so she kept doing what she was doing.
Posted by Oasiscalm 4/01/2018 4:55 am | #8 |
hopeful.h wrote:
It's ok that you didn't read the whole post. I think what I'm looking for is not another technique or process, but instead more guidance on how to correctly doing the techniques I'm attempting to do right now.
I also don't ask nor care about his physical whereabouts. But perhaps you are referring to more so "why hasn't this worked?".
I've heard multiple definitions on letting go. In your definition, what is letting go and staying at peace? What should that feel like?
Thanks for your response by the way!
You are your own guidance on how "correctly" you are doing the techniques. See how u feel firstly in general and secondly in regards to your specific person.
I think the only way to know if you are doing the processes right is to ask How Do I Feel? It's all internal - looking at external circumstances is the catch up of how u are feeling - so always go back to yourself and gauge your internal peace.
You asked what do I mean about being peace. I simply mean just having a baseline feeling of calm and an awareness that everything is working out for. Everyone's personality is different but for me humour is a big part of my life - I use it to make my life more light and bright; and I use it to cope in the bad times. So it means I have always attracted people around me with great sense of humours so we can laugh and cry with tears of joy and sadness. You have to find your own grounding force. Something that you can reach for that brings a sense of calm over you no matter what the circumstances.
There really doesn't need to be many definitions of letting go. letting go always means giving up the burden of a situation. Giving up the mental stress it has given you. Let go and let God as they say - is simply saying I'm transferring the burden of this situation away from me. Sometimes people argue over the different definitions of "letting go" but at the essence all the definitions mean exactly the same.
Start being more feeling and more less thinking. When you move into that state of being present in the here and now and flourishing in whatever comes your way - you will start to get what being at peace is about.
What books have u read about creating?
Posted by hopeful.h 4/03/2018 1:53 pm | #9 |
Thank you so so much for your replies!! It makes so much sense now. In fact, yesterday something just clicked inside me. I felt so free and at peace. It's so weird. I woke up feeling like everything was ok. That I was happy and that I had him back. When I do things throughout the day, I start to imagine that he's there with me. Why did it take so long for me to get to this stage? idk, but I am so happy that I am here. I feel so aligned.