AceWay123 wrote:

Of course it's not magic.

But some "magically" attract a car crash.

Its available 24/7 but are you using its principles 24/7 to create? No one is.

I've manifested many things with the same mindset... Not even one day I attracted something so wrong, even during worst days of my life, I still used LOA and it only got me the good.

Everyone has different views on this, the way I've been doing it has worked, but when it comes to like car crashes... it just doesn't sound right.

It seems that you look at the LOA as a set of principles that you either work with or you don't. The LOA is like gravity -- you can't shut it off. It's always working whether you are conscious of it or not. Using these principles that you speak of is called deliberate creation. It is choosing to deliberately work with something that is already always turned on and working to get what you desire. Otherwise you are creating your life by default, but the LOA is still working.

LOL.

You guys do realize that this thread is nothing more than a debate about things that are just assumptions and theories without real evidence or proof, right? Sure, you could each provide personal anecdotes, but more than likely it would just be filtered by confirmation bias. We could go on and on about what LoA really is and how it really works, but more often than not, we're just squabbling over other people's ideas that we have accepted for ourselves from the lens of our own bias. That's why LoA is many different things to different people, plus different people have different experiences that defy the theories and assumptions made. The way I see it, just experiment with it if you're interested and find the way of life for you that works best.

A good theory is also designed so that it's neither impossible to be proved or disproved. With Law Attraction and the "we create literally everything in our reality" idea, it's impossible to really prove it or disprove it. Plus, most scientists themselves think Law of Attraction is nonsense. When you look into neuroscience and quantum psychics, there is no real evidence or strong consensus on any of the popular ideas here. And "theory" is the wrong word for the ideas here. A scientific theory is based on facts that have been repeatedly confirmed by observation and experiment. The "theories" we have here are really just speculation and hypothesis, there were written by others as if they are fact but we have no real way of proving it or disproving it. And personal anecdotes are not proof. Just my opinion: I don't think we can look at LoA by scientific standards because it doesn't fit there. If you look for real scientific evidence for it, you'll be disappointed. It's better to just experiment with the ideas yourself, rely on your experience, and tweak it however you need to make your life better. Otherwise we're living in dogma and not self-growth.

Colonel Roosevelt wrote:

A good theory is also designed so that it's neither impossible to be proved or disproved. With Law Attraction and the "we create literally everything in our reality" idea, it's impossible to really prove it or disprove it. Plus, most scientists themselves think Law of Attraction is nonsense. When you look into neuroscience and quantum psychics, there is no real evidence or strong consensus on any of the popular ideas here. And "theory" is the wrong word for the ideas here. A scientific theory is based on facts that have been repeatedly confirmed by observation and experiment. The "theories" we have here are really just speculation and hypothesis, there were written by others as if they are fact but we have no real way of proving it or disproving it. And personal anecdotes are not proof. Just my opinion: I don't think we can look at LoA by scientific standards because it doesn't fit there. If you look for real scientific evidence for it, you'll be disappointed. It's better to just experiment with the ideas yourself, rely on your experience, and tweak it however you need to make your life better. Otherwise we're living in dogma and not self-growth.

I love this approach !  It would be great though if there could be an open discussion to discuss some experiences without becoming to defensive or ignore any cynical view about anything. Maybe this should be done in a different forum though.

Do you know any forum where any optimistic but also critical discussion of experiences would be possible ? A forum that could help to discuss experiences and thereby try to find the best working framework. 

A place to reason about techniques and investigate phenomena together, with the idea to acquire new knowledge and integrate previous knowledge. (maybe not measurable principles) but with the same goal "Veritas vos liberabit"  ..Im 100% sure many of us are very interested in the research pioneering.
 

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