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9/13/2018 7:27 pm  #31


Re: 'Self love' and 'feeling good' are not necessary to manifesting

Excalibar, I think you’re starting to overthink it. Just do it until you feel like it’s yours. You can continue or stop, it doesn’t matter. It’s up to you. The only purpose of techniques is to get you to that place of knowing. If you can reach that place of knowing without any technique, then you don’t need any.

 

9/13/2018 7:34 pm  #32


Re: 'Self love' and 'feeling good' are not necessary to manifesting

Colonel Roosevelt wrote:

Now, is self-love necessary to manifest the good things you want? No. It is possible to manifest what you want even if you hate yourself, even if you feel unworthy, even if you feel low on confidence, even if you feel insecure. After all, all you have to do is feel that the end result is reality now, discipline your awareness and focus to stay there. But more than likely, your lack of self-love will ruin it. After you get what you want after practicing Neville's technique, you'll probably put your awareness back on the self-loathing and unworthiness and then it will fall apart again. We've seen this so many times on this forum. This won't be true for everyone, but it's true for some and I think that's why self-love is so loved. If the awareness of unworthiness is stronger than the awareness of being loved by the person, then it will most likely fall apart. And for some people, it's easier to feel loved by first letting go of the unworthiness (through self-love) instead of fighting an uphill battle with the nightly method. If I try to feel it real that I'm with a sp or have that specific job but my core beliefs of low confidence and insecurity keep pulling me out, it's gonna be an uphill battle. And that's why I think it's so much easier to manifest a myriad of great experiences when the state of self-love is strong. It's because I don't have the uphill battle, the core limiting beliefs of my self have been changed by practicing self-love. 

This is exactly how I view it all.

 

9/13/2018 8:10 pm  #33


Re: 'Self love' and 'feeling good' are not necessary to manifesting

fizzy wrote:

Excalibar, I think you’re starting to overthink it. Just do it until you feel like it’s yours. You can continue or stop, it doesn’t matter. It’s up to you. The only purpose of techniques is to get you to that place of knowing. If you can reach that place of knowing without any technique, then you don’t need any.

Thanks fizzy. Your right, I really need to stop overthinking things. I'll continue to visualize a couple times a day.


 
 

9/13/2018 9:44 pm  #34


Re: 'Self love' and 'feeling good' are not necessary to manifesting

fizzy wrote:

Colonel Roosevelt wrote:

Now, is self-love necessary to manifest the good things you want? No. It is possible to manifest what you want even if you hate yourself, even if you feel unworthy, even if you feel low on confidence, even if you feel insecure. After all, all you have to do is feel that the end result is reality now, discipline your awareness and focus to stay there. But more than likely, your lack of self-love will ruin it. After you get what you want after practicing Neville's technique, you'll probably put your awareness back on the self-loathing and unworthiness and then it will fall apart again. We've seen this so many times on this forum. This won't be true for everyone, but it's true for some and I think that's why self-love is so loved. If the awareness of unworthiness is stronger than the awareness of being loved by the person, then it will most likely fall apart. And for some people, it's easier to feel loved by first letting go of the unworthiness (through self-love) instead of fighting an uphill battle with the nightly method. If I try to feel it real that I'm with a sp or have that specific job but my core beliefs of low confidence and insecurity keep pulling me out, it's gonna be an uphill battle. And that's why I think it's so much easier to manifest a myriad of great experiences when the state of self-love is strong. It's because I don't have the uphill battle, the core limiting beliefs of my self have been changed by practicing self-love. 

This is exactly how I view it all.

 

Neville says to repeat the same scene, but do I have to do this? I say this because there is SOOO much I want to manifest I don't even know where to begin sometimes. 😅🤦🏻‍♀️

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9/13/2018 11:40 pm  #35


Re: 'Self love' and 'feeling good' are not necessary to manifesting

excalibar wrote:

fizzy wrote:

Colonel Roosevelt wrote:

Now, is self-love necessary to manifest the good things you want? No. It is possible to manifest what you want even if you hate yourself, even if you feel unworthy, even if you feel low on confidence, even if you feel insecure. After all, all you have to do is feel that the end result is reality now, discipline your awareness and focus to stay there. But more than likely, your lack of self-love will ruin it. After you get what you want after practicing Neville's technique, you'll probably put your awareness back on the self-loathing and unworthiness and then it will fall apart again. We've seen this so many times on this forum. This won't be true for everyone, but it's true for some and I think that's why self-love is so loved. If the awareness of unworthiness is stronger than the awareness of being loved by the person, then it will most likely fall apart. And for some people, it's easier to feel loved by first letting go of the unworthiness (through self-love) instead of fighting an uphill battle with the nightly method. If I try to feel it real that I'm with a sp or have that specific job but my core beliefs of low confidence and insecurity keep pulling me out, it's gonna be an uphill battle. And that's why I think it's so much easier to manifest a myriad of great experiences when the state of self-love is strong. It's because I don't have the uphill battle, the core limiting beliefs of my self have been changed by practicing self-love. 

This is exactly how I view it all.

 

Neville says to repeat the same scene, but do I have to do this? I say this because there is SOOO much I want to manifest I don't even know where to begin sometimes. 😅🤦🏻‍♀️

The purpose of repeating the same scene over and over again is to plant it into your subconscious mind until it becomes a belief. Repetition is usually needed for this to happen. It varies with different people how many times they have to repeat it before it becomes a subconscious belief. Once it becomes a subconscious belief, it must become a reality in the outer world.

Seriously, excalibar, you've really got to start applying this or you will never get anywhere. At some point, as we've discussed privately, you've got to stop asking the same questions and actually start applying what you've learnt.
 

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9/21/2018 6:23 pm  #36


Re: 'Self love' and 'feeling good' are not necessary to manifesting

BunnyRose wrote:

Thank you for your post Cynthia. I really appreciated reading it. I remember the times where I felt like I had to be perfectly happy in order to manifest anything. You are a wonderful person for making your valid points.! Thank you for sharing.

Thank you very much for the compliments.


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10/20/2018 10:38 am  #37


Re: 'Self love' and 'feeling good' are not necessary to manifesting

How I have live in the end? What have I imagine, if I want a relationship with spec.person? Have I imagine words from him , that he love me amd want a relationship with me or this isn' t live in the end?or can I just write down that I have a relationship with this person and let it go and feel that this desire is already done?I was read when we dont have our desire in 30 days, so we do something wrong. So can I write down a date too? ? And simply be sure that this is will happen in a specific date? I read stories, where people manifested their desires in specific date

 

10/20/2018 1:15 pm  #38


Re: 'Self love' and 'feeling good' are not necessary to manifesting

Anita wrote:

How I have live in the end? What have I imagine, if I want a relationship with spec.person? Have I imagine words from him , that he love me amd want a relationship with me or this isn' t live in the end?or can I just write down that I have a relationship with this person and let it go and feel that this desire is already done?I was read when we dont have our desire in 30 days, so we do something wrong. So can I write down a date too? ? And simply be sure that this is will happen in a specific date? I read stories, where people manifested their desires in specific date

Because this is my original post, I am making an exception and replying. It's not as though I haven't answered these same questions many, many times already, which is why I have stopped replying to them. There is a search function, after all, and studying Neville Goddard's teachings, which I've recommended doing over and over countless times now will give you all of the answers you could ever want and need.

There is only one principle for manifesting anything and everything, whether it is a relationship, a car, a job, or anything else, and that is living in the end of the wish fulfilled, which means living in the end in your imagination of already having it now.

First of all, it isn't true that if something doesn't happen in 30 days or in any other time period that it won't happen. That is rubbish. It takes as long as it takes, and even Neville said he couldn't say how long that would be. In my opinion it's a very bad idea to set a time limit on something happening, (I don't even do it, and I've been doing this for a long time - I have a lot of fast, even instant results, but it's not because I'm trying to, it's because I'm not putting a time limit on it or any other pressure on it or trying to force it), especially when you don't know what to do and are confused by the many, often wrong, opinions on 'LOA', which I really don't like to call it. There are other laws, such as the law of assumption, and in my opinion, it is better referred to as conscious creation because that is what you are doing by applying the various laws, creating something that you want to have happen. Setting a time limit creates a lot of unnecessary stress and pressure which is one of the last things you want. You've got to be relaxed about it and have some trust. Things can happen fast, but not if you are trying to force something to happen within a given period of time. Desperation in any form is about the most effective way I know of keeping desires away.

Whether we realise it or not, we are all creating our lives all of the time, whether we are doing it consciously or not. We can't switch that on and off. What we can do and do a lot of the time is switch on and off our conscious creation of our lives. Until I finally discovered Neville relatively recently, within the last few years, virtually every author I read before that at the very least strongly implied that this is something that you do only when you have a desire or need for something. Neville was the one who came out and said that this is something that we're doing all of the time whether consciously or not.

What do you want the end result to be? It sounds like in your case you want to have the relationship with the person, so imagining him saying he wants a relationship with you is not quite really living in the end. It goes beyond that. Anybody can say words, and actions speak louder than words. Living in the end is actually having the relationship itself. Living in the end in this case would be imagining and feeling as true that you already have the relationship with the person right now, just as you want it to be. What would it feel like if it was true? It's not an emotional feeling like happy or excited, it's the feeling of having your desire right now. I don't know how old you are and if you're old and mature enough to be married, but let's say for the sake of illustration that you are and that is what you want. You could imagine what your life would be like with this person in as ideal a way as possible, you could imagine the two of you going places and doing things together, you could imagine wearing a wedding ring, you could imagine kissing and cuddling and hearing him tell you how much he loves you, you could imagine people calling you Mrs Whoever, making all of this as real as possible in your imagination and feeling like it is already true right now and that you are already married to the person right now. Repetition and being consistent are important because you have to get to the point where you feel and believe that all of this is really true. You are actually programming your subconscious mind by doing this to believe this is true because it cannot tell the difference between what is real and what is imagined, and when your subconscious mind believes something is true, to quote another author, 'it will move heaven and earth' to bring about your desire.

Don't compare yourself to other people. If you and the other person do social media, don't look at theirs or do anything else if it is going to upset you or remind you that you don't have something right now that you want. I can't impress upon you how important this is. Don't worry about anything. Don't worry about how long you think it is taking because that will only make it take longer. If you had the relationship right now, how long it took wouldn't even come into it, and neither would anything else that may be the current reality that might be upsetting you. 

Imagine your desire in detail, feel it like it's already true, that it is already an accomplished fact, and trust that it will happen, and don't worry about when that will be.
 


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10/20/2018 1:30 pm  #39


Re: 'Self love' and 'feeling good' are not necessary to manifesting

Cynthia wrote:

Anita wrote:

How I have live in the end? What have I imagine, if I want a relationship with spec.person? Have I imagine words from him , that he love me amd want a relationship with me or this isn' t live in the end?or can I just write down that I have a relationship with this person and let it go and feel that this desire is already done?I was read when we dont have our desire in 30 days, so we do something wrong. So can I write down a date too? ? And simply be sure that this is will happen in a specific date? I read stories, where people manifested their desires in specific date

Because this is my original post, I am making an exception and replying. It's not as though I haven't answered these same questions many, many times already, which is why I have stopped replying to them. There is a search function, after all, and studying Neville Goddard's teachings, which I've recommended doing over and over countless times now will give you all of the answers you could ever want and need.

There is only one principle for manifesting anything and everything, whether it is a relationship, a car, a job, or anything else, and that is living in the end of the wish fulfilled, which means living in the end in your imagination of already having it now.

First of all, it isn't true that if something doesn't happen in 30 days or in any other time period that it won't happen. That is rubbish. It takes as long as it takes, and even Neville said he couldn't say how long that would be. In my opinion it's a very bad idea to set a time limit on something happening, (I don't even do it, and I've been doing this for a long time - I have a lot of fast, even instant results, but it's not because I'm trying to, it's because I'm not putting a time limit on it or any other pressure on it or trying to force it), especially when you don't know what to do and are confused by the many, often wrong, opinions on 'LOA', which I really don't like to call it. There are other laws, such as the law of assumption, and in my opinion, it is better referred to as conscious creation because that is what you are doing by applying the various laws, creating something that you want to have happen. Setting a time limit creates a lot of unnecessary stress and pressure which is one of the last things you want. You've got to be relaxed about it and have some trust. Things can happen fast, but not if you are trying to force something to happen within a given period of time. Desperation in any form is about the most effective way I know of keeping desires away.

Whether we realise it or not, we are all creating our lives all of the time, whether we are doing it consciously or not. We can't switch that on and off. What we can do and do a lot of the time is switch on and off our conscious creation of our lives. Until I finally discovered Neville relatively recently, within the last few years, virtually every author I read before that at the very least strongly implied that this is something that you do only when you have a desire or need for something. Neville was the one who came out and said that this is something that we're doing all of the time whether consciously or not.

What do you want the end result to be? It sounds like in your case you want to have the relationship with the person, so imagining him saying he wants a relationship with you is not quite really living in the end. It goes beyond that. Anybody can say words, and actions speak louder than words. Living in the end is actually having the relationship itself. Living in the end in this case would be imagining and feeling as true that you already have the relationship with the person right now, just as you want it to be. What would it feel like if it was true? It's not an emotional feeling like happy or excited, it's the feeling of having your desire right now. I don't know how old you are and if you're old and mature enough to be married, but let's say for the sake of illustration that you are and that is what you want. You could imagine what your life would be like with this person in as ideal a way as possible, you could imagine the two of you going places and doing things together, you could imagine wearing a wedding ring, you could imagine kissing and cuddling and hearing him tell you how much he loves you, you could imagine people calling you Mrs Whoever, making all of this as real as possible in your imagination and feeling like it is already true right now and that you are already married to the person right now. Repetition and being consistent are important because you have to get to the point where you feel and believe that all of this is really true. You are actually programming your subconscious mind by doing this to believe this is true because it cannot tell the difference between what is real and what is imagined, and when your subconscious mind believes something is true, to quote another author, 'it will move heaven and earth' to bring about your desire.

Don't compare yourself to other people. If you and the other person do social media, don't look at theirs or do anything else if it is going to upset you or remind you that you don't have something right now that you want. I can't impress upon you how important this is. Don't worry about anything. Don't worry about how long you think it is taking because that will only make it take longer. If you had the relationship right now, how long it took wouldn't even come into it, and neither would anything else that may be the current reality that might be upsetting you. 

Imagine your desire in detail, feel it like it's already true, that it is already an accomplished fact, and trust that it will happen, and don't worry about when that will be.
 

Thank you so much. Im 25 years old so I can imagine that  Im married and I would like married with this person.  But I dont say,  that if something doesn't happen in 30days so never happen. I say that if our manifestation takes more than 30 days, so we probably do something wrong  I was read it on another forum superman challenge .And  every challenge  takes 30 days..And yes stalking social.media is my biggest problem I dont know how stop it. I try anything. And I dont know how ignore current reality if I see him. Im feel sad and I miss him and I forget that I have to live in the end
 

 

10/20/2018 1:45 pm  #40


Re: 'Self love' and 'feeling good' are not necessary to manifesting

Anita wrote:

Cynthia wrote:

Anita wrote:

How I have live in the end? What have I imagine, if I want a relationship with spec.person? Have I imagine words from him , that he love me amd want a relationship with me or this isn' t live in the end?or can I just write down that I have a relationship with this person and let it go and feel that this desire is already done?I was read when we dont have our desire in 30 days, so we do something wrong. So can I write down a date too? ? And simply be sure that this is will happen in a specific date? I read stories, where people manifested their desires in specific date

Because this is my original post, I am making an exception and replying. It's not as though I haven't answered these same questions many, many times already, which is why I have stopped replying to them. There is a search function, after all, and studying Neville Goddard's teachings, which I've recommended doing over and over countless times now will give you all of the answers you could ever want and need.

There is only one principle for manifesting anything and everything, whether it is a relationship, a car, a job, or anything else, and that is living in the end of the wish fulfilled, which means living in the end in your imagination of already having it now.

First of all, it isn't true that if something doesn't happen in 30 days or in any other time period that it won't happen. That is rubbish. It takes as long as it takes, and even Neville said he couldn't say how long that would be. In my opinion it's a very bad idea to set a time limit on something happening, (I don't even do it, and I've been doing this for a long time - I have a lot of fast, even instant results, but it's not because I'm trying to, it's because I'm not putting a time limit on it or any other pressure on it or trying to force it), especially when you don't know what to do and are confused by the many, often wrong, opinions on 'LOA', which I really don't like to call it. There are other laws, such as the law of assumption, and in my opinion, it is better referred to as conscious creation because that is what you are doing by applying the various laws, creating something that you want to have happen. Setting a time limit creates a lot of unnecessary stress and pressure which is one of the last things you want. You've got to be relaxed about it and have some trust. Things can happen fast, but not if you are trying to force something to happen within a given period of time. Desperation in any form is about the most effective way I know of keeping desires away.

Whether we realise it or not, we are all creating our lives all of the time, whether we are doing it consciously or not. We can't switch that on and off. What we can do and do a lot of the time is switch on and off our conscious creation of our lives. Until I finally discovered Neville relatively recently, within the last few years, virtually every author I read before that at the very least strongly implied that this is something that you do only when you have a desire or need for something. Neville was the one who came out and said that this is something that we're doing all of the time whether consciously or not.

What do you want the end result to be? It sounds like in your case you want to have the relationship with the person, so imagining him saying he wants a relationship with you is not quite really living in the end. It goes beyond that. Anybody can say words, and actions speak louder than words. Living in the end is actually having the relationship itself. Living in the end in this case would be imagining and feeling as true that you already have the relationship with the person right now, just as you want it to be. What would it feel like if it was true? It's not an emotional feeling like happy or excited, it's the feeling of having your desire right now. I don't know how old you are and if you're old and mature enough to be married, but let's say for the sake of illustration that you are and that is what you want. You could imagine what your life would be like with this person in as ideal a way as possible, you could imagine the two of you going places and doing things together, you could imagine wearing a wedding ring, you could imagine kissing and cuddling and hearing him tell you how much he loves you, you could imagine people calling you Mrs Whoever, making all of this as real as possible in your imagination and feeling like it is already true right now and that you are already married to the person right now. Repetition and being consistent are important because you have to get to the point where you feel and believe that all of this is really true. You are actually programming your subconscious mind by doing this to believe this is true because it cannot tell the difference between what is real and what is imagined, and when your subconscious mind believes something is true, to quote another author, 'it will move heaven and earth' to bring about your desire.

Don't compare yourself to other people. If you and the other person do social media, don't look at theirs or do anything else if it is going to upset you or remind you that you don't have something right now that you want. I can't impress upon you how important this is. Don't worry about anything. Don't worry about how long you think it is taking because that will only make it take longer. If you had the relationship right now, how long it took wouldn't even come into it, and neither would anything else that may be the current reality that might be upsetting you. 

Imagine your desire in detail, feel it like it's already true, that it is already an accomplished fact, and trust that it will happen, and don't worry about when that will be.
 

Thank you so much. Im 25 years old so I can imagine that Im married and I would like married with this person. But I dont say, that if something doesn't happen in 30days so never happen. I say that if our manifestation takes more than 30 days, so we probably do something wrong I was read it on another forum superman challenge .And every challenge takes 30 days..And yes stalking social.media is my biggest problem I dont know how stop it. I try anything. And I dont know how ignore current reality if I see him. Im feel sad and I miss him and I forget that I have to live in the end
 

How much do you really want the relationship? If you really want it badly enough, you will do whatever it takes, and that includes having the self discipline to not look at social media or do anything else to reinforce the current reality that you don't want. Forget about 'superman', forget about 30 days, it's rubbish. Only listen to Neville. He will never steer you wrong. He didn't teach conscious creation for fame or financial gain. He married his second wife by doing exactly what he taught other people to do. If you don't create the relationship of your desires it will be your own fault and nobody else's. You have that kind of power. So does everybody. You just have to realise that and do what needs to be done, which is to live in the end and disregard anything that tells you that it isn't true at the moment..I had a long marriage with my former husband simply by imagining I was married to him. That was long before I ever heard about Neville, and I would do some things differently now that I know better because it wasn't the ideal relationship that I had wanted to have with somebody, but nevertheless I did get the marriage by simply imagining that I was married to him.
 


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