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3/27/2018 3:43 pm  #21


Re: Thoughts of loa

I disagree with the feeling because to me I never manifested anything but negative feeling bad. I guess I shall keep doing what I'm doing .

 

3/27/2018 3:47 pm  #22


Re: Thoughts of loa

Selfloveiskey wrote:

I disagree with the feeling because to me I never manifested anything but negative feeling bad. I guess I shall keep doing what I'm doing .

 
You can disagree all you like, other people's experiences, including mine, have been different to yours.


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3/27/2018 3:48 pm  #23


Re: Thoughts of loa

Cynthia wrote:

Selfloveiskey wrote:

I disagree with the feeling because to me I never manifested anything but negative feeling bad. I guess I shall keep doing what I'm doing .

 
You can disagree all you like, other people's experiences, including mine, have been different to yours.

And mine has been different from yours everyone is entitled to their thoughts and experiences .i m just stating I disagree if I was crying and upset today I wouldn't manifest my desire because for me it hasn't ever happened that way.  Please don't discredit my experience just because I disagree with yours . I'm not saying yours is invalid . In my case self love was a huge huge factor in manifesting my guy back twice. And really I never manifested him back when I wasn't doing self love. But I just personally feel it's a huge part of manifesting which differs from a lot of people's opinions here but it worked for me. Right now I m having difficulty seeing it for example I have stated to all of you I have been focusing on my well being yes but I also have done a visualization a day and living in the end only when I feel good. So i have done the usual or the norm. It's just the wonder hey where is it and then the idea of well maybe I just can't manifest some things that popped in. But you guys do what works for you . I ll stick with what works for me.  Maybe in this case I need to live more in the end which is what I ll take from this .

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3/27/2018 3:55 pm  #24


Re: Thoughts of loa

I feel that living in the end is highly misunderstood from many people. It's not about taking a walk with your imaginary dog all day (even many people suggest that), if you want a dog. It's sending your order to Amazon and knowing with absolute certainty that it will arrive, not pretending that it's already there. 

And it's also my experience that it doesn't matter how my general state is. I was depressed - so much that I hardly left my bed - but I was able to manifest my biggest desire at that time that seemed impossible at first. I was depressed because my ex left around that time, felt bad about money and still was able to manifest a job, because I absolutely believed that I was the only person who could possibly match it that well. If how I felt back then had manifested in every area of my life, I had been run over by three trucks in a day. While you are in a bad state, you can't appreciate stuff so much though. So it's not a good idea to take this as an excuse to stay in a low mood.


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3/27/2018 3:56 pm  #25


Re: Thoughts of loa

Selfloveiskey wrote:

And mine has been different from yours everyone is entitled to their thoughts and experiences .i m just stating I disagree if I was crying and upset today I wouldn't manifest my desire because for me it hasn't ever happened that way. In my case self love was a huge huge factor in manifesting my guy back twice. And really I never manifested him back when I wasn't doing self love. But I just personally feel it's a huge part of manifesting which differs from a lot of people's opinions here but it worked for me. Right now I m having difficulty seeing it for example I have stated to all of you I have been focusing on my well being yes but I also have done a visualization a day and living in the end only when I feel good. So i have done the usual or the norm. It's just the wonder hey where is it and then the idea of well maybe I just can't manifest some things that popped in. But you guys do what works for you . I ll stick with what works for me

All three of us who responded to your post are pretty much in agreement. So if you find that doing what has worked for you in the past isn’t working anymore, I’d say try to be a little open minded to what we are saying. What harm could that do? What we are saying doesn’t exclude self love. It’s self love and then some. And not saying I can manifest “only if this or that”. We are just trying to get you to see that sometimes you are placing limits where you don’t need to.

 

3/27/2018 4:02 pm  #26


Re: Thoughts of loa

fizzy wrote:

Selfloveiskey wrote:

And mine has been different from yours everyone is entitled to their thoughts and experiences .i m just stating I disagree if I was crying and upset today I wouldn't manifest my desire because for me it hasn't ever happened that way. In my case self love was a huge huge factor in manifesting my guy back twice. And really I never manifested him back when I wasn't doing self love. But I just personally feel it's a huge part of manifesting which differs from a lot of people's opinions here but it worked for me. Right now I m having difficulty seeing it for example I have stated to all of you I have been focusing on my well being yes but I also have done a visualization a day and living in the end only when I feel good. So i have done the usual or the norm. It's just the wonder hey where is it and then the idea of well maybe I just can't manifest some things that popped in. But you guys do what works for you . I ll stick with what works for me

All three of us who responded to your post are pretty much in agreement. So if you find that doing what has worked for you in the past isn’t working anymore, I’d say try to be a little open minded to what we are saying. What harm could that do? What we are saying doesn’t exclude self love. It’s self love and then some. And not saying I can manifest “only if this or that”. We are just trying to get you to see that sometimes you are placing limits where you don’t need to.

I was doing that for 3 years and got nothing so i know it doesn't work for me. The moment I focused on me and my self love I got results so so fast . So I really know it doesn't work for me without feeling good and self love. The one thing I will take from this is living in the end result more as that is most likely what I need but it is very important for me to feel self love and focus on being happy my desire should not make or break me.

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3/27/2018 4:04 pm  #27


Re: Thoughts of loa

Sanshi wrote:

I feel that living in the end is highly misunderstood from many people. It's not about taking a walk with your imaginary dog all day (even many people suggest that), if you want a dog. It's sending your order to Amazon and knowing with absolute certainty that it will arrive, not pretending that it's already there. 

And it's also my experience that it doesn't matter how my general state is. I was depressed - so much that I hardly left my bed - but I was able to manifest my biggest desire at that time that seemed impossible at first. I was depressed because my ex left around that time, felt bad about money and still was able to manifest a job, because I absolutely believed that I was the only person who could possibly match it that well. If how I felt back then had manifested in every area of my life, I had been run over by three trucks in a day. While you are in a bad state, you can't appreciate stuff so much though. So it's not a good idea to take this as an excuse to stay in a low mood.

I agree with the top part of what you said about living in the end

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3/27/2018 4:06 pm  #28


Re: Thoughts of loa

Sanshi that's how I'm gonna approach living in the end you put in words what I could not . Thank you

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3/27/2018 4:10 pm  #29


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Selfloveiskey wrote:

I was doing that for 3 years and got nothing so i know it doesn't work for me. The moment I focused on me and my self love I got results so so fast . So I really know it doesn't work for me without feeling good and self love. The one thing I will take from this is living in the end result more as that is most likely what I need but it is very important for me to feel self love and focus on being happy my desire should not make or break me.

You create your reality just like everyone else. So what works for others could work for you just the same The only reason it doesn’t, is because you believe it won’t. It always comes down to beliefs. You have a belief that you have to feel a certain way before you can manifest a desire. But that’s just a belief. You could take on the belief that you can manifest your desire without feeling that certain way, and you would. How could a desire make or break you? It’s simply a state of being that you would prefer to live in. You don’t have to prepare yourself to live in what you prefer. You just have to switch your beliefs to ones that support having what you want. Self love can help you stay in the belief of having your desire, but that’s all it ultimately does in the end. Allowing yourself to have your desire is loving yourself. But of course, live with whatever beliefs you prefer.

 

3/27/2018 4:15 pm  #30


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fizzy wrote:

Selfloveiskey wrote:

I was doing that for 3 years and got nothing so i know it doesn't work for me. The moment I focused on me and my self love I got results so so fast . So I really know it doesn't work for me without feeling good and self love. The one thing I will take from this is living in the end result more as that is most likely what I need but it is very important for me to feel self love and focus on being happy my desire should not make or break me.

You create your reality just like everyone else. So what works for others could work for you just the same The only reason it doesn’t, is because you believe it won’t. It always comes down to beliefs. You have a belief that you have to feel a certain way before you can manifest a desire. But that’s just a belief. You could take on the belief that you can manifest your desire without feeling that certain way, and you would. How could a desire make or break you? It’s simply a state of being that you would prefer to live in. You don’t have to prepare yourself to live in what you prefer. You just have to switch your beliefs to ones that support having what you want. Self love can help you stay in the belief of having your desire, but that’s all it ultimately does in the end. Allowing yourself to have your desire is loving yourself. But of course, live with whatever beliefs you prefer.

Just like my way could work for you then if that's what you believe you can't say you believe that everyone else what they do can work for me but not believe what I do cant work for everyone else which seems to be what you are implying . I disagree I do know what works for me I know how I'm feeling now and I don't feel you are understanding I have manifested a lot of stuff even my guy back recently. I have the belief I can have these things I think a lot of you misunderstand that . I don't think I can't it's just seeing it now. I disagree with a lot of what you are saying and it seems we are on different levels of loa understanding. You stay in the belief that t is yours already and self love helps that so it manifests it because you believe it is yours. What you are saying is contradicting . The belief it is already yours is living in the end. Self love helps me do that and helps a lot of people. Self love helps you allow and let go because you aren't relying on your desire to make you happy that's what I mean by make or break you should be at peace and happy already and with that energy it can draw it in. I got what I needed thanks for everyone's opinions but please keep in mind if you don't want me to undermine what works for you please don't undermine what works for me and has cause of my desires I have gotten as proof since I started self love. Anyway thanks for the replies i got the info I wanted and what resonates with me and my beliefs and what I do

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