I believe that tarot readers and psychics pick up on your energy, so what they say is true but it's not set in stone. 

Psychics are still you pushed out just like everyone else. They aren’t an exception. So they are only reflecting your beliefs back to you in some way.

fizzy wrote:

Psychics are still you pushed out just like everyone else. They aren’t an exception. So they are only reflecting your beliefs back to you in some way.

I almost always agree with you, fizzy, but in this case I didn't believe what was said to me but it still happened. I actually believed the opposite, as in that I would never hear from the SP again at that point, particularly because it had been so long. I also didn't believe or disbelieve that the person who told me so many accurate things about myself would be able to do it or would do that before she did. I didn't really even believe in psychics before I consulted any. How would you explain this?
 

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fizzy wrote:

Cynthia wrote:

I almost always agree with you, fizzy, but in this case I didn't believe what was said to me but it still happened. I actually believed the opposite, as in that I would never hear from the SP again at that point, particularly because it had been so long. I also didn't believe or disbelieve that the person who told me so many accurate things about myself would be able to do it or would do that before she did. I didn't really even believe in psychics before I consulted any. How would you explain this?
 

Well I am no expert, but Neville says everyone is you pushed out. Did he ever say “except for psychics”? He also said think of reality as a dream. So is all of your reality and everyone in it your dream except for the occasional psychic you visit? Saying they aren’t you pushed out is in my opinion, placing them above you in some way. But everything is your creation and that’s just not the case.

No, Neville didn't exclude anybody from his teachings as far as I know, and I don't consider psychics 'above me' in some way, but they have definitely known more than I've known about certain situations. Apart from the first one, they never even saw me, as it was over the phone, (and it wasn't some 'psychic hotline', by the way) so they couldn't pick up on any visual cues or anything. I'm not going to worry about it. My experiences have been what they are, which has not been the same as what other people claim is going on, which is why I felt the need to say something in the first place.

Having thought about this for a bit, I would like to add that true psychics have an innate talent for it, just as other people have innate talents for what they do best. It doesn't mean that they are 'above' somebody else. I happen to have been born with innate talents for music and acting, and I have very good intuition, and when I pay attention to it I'm never wrong. I've had some psychic experiences when I knew something was going to happen and it did, and I've had some paranormal experiences as well, but I wouldn't claim to be a psychic and start giving readings to people. Some psychics have said that everybody is born with psychic ability and that children are psychic, but from what I've seen and heard, most people don't make it to adulthood without having those things suppressed in them or knocked out of them.
 

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fizzy wrote:

But the psychic is still you pushed out. I don’t know what the exact mechanics for this stuff is when we meet someone and they are good at something. If you say “well they’re good at that because you believe they are” that idea is a bit weird because then you can of course say “how could I believe that about them if I didn’t know them until a few minutes ago?” But, even if they show up in your reality a certain way, you can always change your concept of them, which changes them. If you come across an accurate psychic but begin to intentionally believe they’re a fraud, that’s what you will experience. It has to be that way, because that’s how the law works. If this isn’t true of psychics, then it’s not true of anyone else you come across either because psychics are only people just like everyone else.

I agree that psychics are just people like anyone else. I was open-minded, but I probably disbelieved in them more than I believed in them, I didn't preordain whether the person was going to be any good or not. I let them prove that to me or not, and there were a couple that were abysmal, didn't have any ability at all, but I think they believed they did. I don't think they were deliberate frauds. The good ones proved themselves to me because they were accurate and they had no way of knowing any of what they told me.  They had no way of doing any prior research on me before I spoke to them. All I can say is that I probably attracted somebody to give me some answers to questions that I had no way of otherwise finding out which proved to be correct when I was able to get some confirmation later.