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2/15/2018 12:02 pm  #1


Everything based on beliefs

This is a simple question, but if everything in our reality is based on what we believe about ourselves and about other people, then you can never experience something you didn’t somehow believe right? Like if a person says something that completely baffles you, whatever they said has something to do with what you believe about them or about yourself and isn’t completely random?

 

2/15/2018 12:22 pm  #2


Re: Everything based on beliefs

I'm actually really a pink flamingo. Do you think that's true?


Be a flamingo in a flock of pigeons.
 

2/15/2018 12:27 pm  #3


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PrettyFlamingo wrote:

I'm actually really a pink flamingo. Do you think that's true?

No, because I believe you to be a person.

Also, that’s not really what I meant lol.

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2/15/2018 1:14 pm  #4


Re: Everything based on beliefs

fizzy wrote:

This is a simple question, but if everything in our reality is based on what we believe about ourselves and about other people, then you can never experience something you didn’t somehow believe right? Like if a person says something that completely baffles you, whatever they said has something to do with what you believe about them or about yourself and isn’t completely random?

Yes, exactly. It's often subtle, because people aren't aware of what they believe and we have such a huge amount of beliefs that it's impossible to be aware of every single belief that's playing a role in a particular situation. Isn't it interesting that some people always seem to attract the same type of partners or get cheated on over and over again? Nobody has ever cheated on me ever, because part of my belief system is that I would never fall for a guy who would cheat on me. And the only logical explanation for that is for me that people react to what we send out. Because if I would just attract guys who don't want to cheat on me on their own free will, what if they use their free will one day to change their opinion and they suddenly want to cheat? What if I still believed that no guy would ever cheat on me and I also that we are very happy together and he will never leave me? We have a problem here. So for me, the only logical explanation is that it has to be that way that people always react to what I put out. And I can't remember one situation that was different. People I imagined as asses turned out to be asses, people I imagined as being in love with me even if we spoke only once fell for me pretty soon. A guy I experienced as shy for many years (maybe 7 years) started flirting with me after I imagined that he would try to get a chance after I was single again.
Of course I had situation in which I was surprised about a person, but that still makes sense to me. For example, once I had a bad feeling about someone I met. He didn't do anything to awake that feeling. Then I used my rational mind to tell myself that everything is well and he is a nice guy. Guess what? Turned out bad very quickly. Of course I was surprised, because he was nice, but I had this bad feeling before and that's what I got.


"Self-abandonment. That is the secret. We have to abandon ourselves to the state, in our love for the state, and in so doing live the life of the state and no more our present state. And to make the state alive, one must become it."

Neville Goddard ~ The Law and the Promise
 

2/15/2018 1:47 pm  #5


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Sanshi wrote:

Yes, exactly. It's often subtle, because people aren't aware of what they believe and we have such a huge amount of beliefs that it's impossible to be aware of every single belief that's playing a role in a particular situation. Isn't it interesting that some people always seem to attract the same type of partners or get cheated on over and over again? Nobody has ever cheated on me ever, because part of my belief system is that I would never fall for a guy who would cheat on me. And the only logical explanation for that is for me that people react to what we send out. Because if I would just attract guys who don't want to cheat on me on their own free will, what if they use their free will one day to change their opinion and they suddenly want to cheat? What if I still believed that no guy would ever cheat on me and I also that we are very happy together and he will never leave me? We have a problem here. So for me, the only logical explanation is that it has to be that way that people always react to what I put out. And I can't remember one situation that was different. People I imagined as asses turned out to be asses, people I imagined as being in love with me even if we spoke only once fell for me pretty soon. A guy I experienced as shy for many years (maybe 7 years) started flirting with me after I imagined that he would try to get a chance after I was single again.
Of course I had situation in which I was surprised about a person, but that still makes sense to me. For example, once I had a bad feeling about someone I met. He didn't do anything to awake that feeling. Then I used my rational mind to tell myself that everything is well and he is a nice guy. Guess what? Turned out bad very quickly. Of course I was surprised, because he was nice, but I had this bad feeling before and that's what I got.

Thank you :D

And I guess the answer is yes, but no limits to what you can believe to be true about a person?

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2/15/2018 4:59 pm  #6


Re: Everything based on beliefs

Your ability to believe it is the only limit.


"Self-abandonment. That is the secret. We have to abandon ourselves to the state, in our love for the state, and in so doing live the life of the state and no more our present state. And to make the state alive, one must become it."

Neville Goddard ~ The Law and the Promise
 

2/15/2018 6:42 pm  #7


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Sanshi, do you or does anyone else know what exactly Neville Goddard meant when he said “The only power to reject a subjective word is to be incapable of wishing a similar state of another”? This is one thing that confuses me because it’s about believing things about other people and kind of sounds like a limitation.

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2/15/2018 8:22 pm  #8


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Well, there are a lot of things to consider. Neville was human too, so his word isn't law. Then I wonder when he did say this in regards to how long he already thought. And if I remember it right, there is only one passage ever where he said that..or at least I didn't find it anywhere else. There are a lot more passages in which he says that everything is possible and that every "seeming other" is just a projection. So you get to choose what to believe. You stumble about it, because you attract it in your experience. Reread a book recently. The first time I read it I stopped halfway, because he said something that was completely against my beliefs and made me feel bad. Guess what? I can't find that passage anymore - it's simply gone or I interpret it differently, I don't know.
Neville said also that you shouldn't believe just his words, but test it.


"Self-abandonment. That is the secret. We have to abandon ourselves to the state, in our love for the state, and in so doing live the life of the state and no more our present state. And to make the state alive, one must become it."

Neville Goddard ~ The Law and the Promise
 

2/15/2018 8:28 pm  #9


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But then his confused me, my specific person believed I cheated on him, but I never once did. Nor did I have an interest of doing so. So if he believed that, then why did it never actually happen? Why does my actions not match his belief about me?

 

2/16/2018 2:50 am  #10


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authenticself wrote:

But then his confused me, my specific person believed I cheated on him, but I never once did. Nor did I have an interest of doing so. So if he believed that, then why did it never actually happen? Why does my actions not match his belief about me?

Because there is no other person, but only you..How could you ever really know what an other person believes anyway? Take your cue from your consciousness. It's the only you have access to.


"Self-abandonment. That is the secret. We have to abandon ourselves to the state, in our love for the state, and in so doing live the life of the state and no more our present state. And to make the state alive, one must become it."

Neville Goddard ~ The Law and the Promise
 

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