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Cherished wrote:
I don't see it as confusing whatsoever? What are u all confused about? The thoughts you think turn into beliefs you hold. And your beliefs vibrate out into the universe and create your future. If your vibration is clear and high and you are feeling happy each day, what you want will manifest. If you're miserable and needy and despairing, then you clearly don't believe you can attract whatever you want. So you have 2 options. Either work on your limiting beliefs by challenging them and overriding them, or simply by living in the moment with a vibe of contentment and eagerness about a new and brighter future unfolding. It makes perfect sense, where are you all tripping up?
I don't find it confusing at all. So I don't get why people are tripping.
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ChaliceSnowFlower wrote:
Cherished wrote:
I don't see it as confusing whatsoever? What are u all confused about? The thoughts you think turn into beliefs you hold. And your beliefs vibrate out into the universe and create your future. If your vibration is clear and high and you are feeling happy each day, what you want will manifest. If you're miserable and needy and despairing, then you clearly don't believe you can attract whatever you want. So you have 2 options. Either work on your limiting beliefs by challenging them and overriding them, or simply by living in the moment with a vibe of contentment and eagerness about a new and brighter future unfolding. It makes perfect sense, where are you all tripping up?
I don't find it confusing at all. So I don't get why people are tripping.
If you are getting conflicting information from several different people, and new at this, a person might could get confused because they don't know what direction to take. But who knows, maybe us newbies are stupid.
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Hopeful one wrote:
ChaliceSnowFlower wrote:
Cherished wrote:
I don't see it as confusing whatsoever? What are u all confused about? The thoughts you think turn into beliefs you hold. And your beliefs vibrate out into the universe and create your future. If your vibration is clear and high and you are feeling happy each day, what you want will manifest. If you're miserable and needy and despairing, then you clearly don't believe you can attract whatever you want. So you have 2 options. Either work on your limiting beliefs by challenging them and overriding them, or simply by living in the moment with a vibe of contentment and eagerness about a new and brighter future unfolding. It makes perfect sense, where are you all tripping up?
I don't find it confusing at all. So I don't get why people are tripping.
If you are getting conflicting information from several different people, and new at this, a person might could get confused because they don't know what direction to take. But who knows, maybe us newbies are stupid.
It can be difficult to understand if you're new to practising it deliberately but all the different LOA teachers pretty much say the same things but worded differently. It's all about finding one you can relate to and stick with their teachings, that's how it's going for me right now anyway.
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Many people have got their ex back even if they are with someone else.... So everyone has their own belief.... Loa works..! Period!
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It's so interesting. This post has more reads than some of Cherished's posts and that within a few days, and people are still pushing it to the top. I wonder why? Why not just letting it die by withdrawing all attention?
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Sanshi wrote:
It's so interesting. This post has more reads than some of Cherished's posts and that within a few days, and people are still pushing it to the top. I wonder why? Why not just letting it die by withdrawing all attention?
Agree with you there
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I know it'll be counter-productive, as I'm bumping it to say this, but yeah, why don't we let this topic die? It's not helpful for newcomers, nor "old-comers".
I understand what OP was trying to say, but anything is possible, and I'd much rather know my ex is coming back, than move on ;)
She is coming back. And everyone, as are your exes
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It's hilarious how the ones who think this thread is negative are the ones who bump it LOL
There definitely are contradictions in this thread. I pointed out some of them but they went unanswered.
I don't see why people are so threatened by this thread. After all, Bashar is popular here and even he said "Skepticism by definition is an open minded state of a willingness to explore something, a willingness to look at what you call evidence, a willingness to understand your relationship to it --- your personal relationship to it --- and a willingness to allow --- for a new belief to come in to challenge the old belief you may have been holding on to. Not the idea that you must change your belief, but a willingness to allow for the possibility that your beliefs --- be they long held or cherished --- may never the less require some change."
Anyway, here's the biggest contradiction I want to focus on. And it's important because it's the biggest contradiction that confused me when I was a newbie as well. Should we work on creating better beliefs or just let it go and be happy? The popular mentors in this thread say that you get what you believe and the only way to change your reality is to change your beliefs. Well...I've asked around on other forums and I've received different answers from successful members. One told me that he never had to change his beliefs/ thought patterns, it was simply about choosing not to worry about it anymore, let it go, and being happy. Another person said letting go only works if you're neutral or above on the subject. On the Abe forum, this was mentioned as well. Some users say that you can change your beliefs on a subject but you also don't have to do that, you could also drop the subject completely and focus on anything that makes you happy and you'll still get what you want, even though the belief didn't change. That kind of goes against the idea that you always get what you believe, doesn't it?
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Well, I think the people here who are nuanced in LOA understand that yes, while everything is possible, the fruit of getting it is to let it go. Which means to detach. So the only way you can get what you want is to feel it, sense it, know it, then allow it to flow through you and out into the universe.
But you know, I think that while attracting a specific person is possible, I just wanted to say that it's really best not done until after you have gotten over the person. Like to just let the relationship in your head die, do the things that allow you to move on, and then when you're in an 'over it' place, that's the place where the chances of the ex returning is. Like in my, and many many other's , life experiences, exs come back in earnest when you're over them. You don't have to be with someone else, you just have to be at the point where if they're name popped up in your facebook messages,you wouldn't have a heart attack. They need to be another face in the crowd pretty much. Then the attracting process has the greatest liklihood of working because when you're not having heart attacks, you can actually just be normal? Like you can be how you are when you're just hanging out with friends and that's actually, ironically, when you're at your most attractive because attractive is pretty much the same as to be relaxed and happy. So when you're laughing over a bottle of wine with your mates, you're actually really attractive. When you're freaking out and doing weird little laughs and nervously trying to seduce or be cute, you're not as attractive.
So when you reach the point where you can actually imagine sitting down with your person over a beer and just letting your hair down and joking about the latest star wars and other things, that is when they will be able to see you in your true element and if they fell for you before, it is quite likely they will fall for you again! So the idea that they have to 'want' you shouldn't be so scary! haha. The only reason that might sound scary is because you definitely don't believe right now that they would want you and you care too much about that.
You need to not care. You need to literally be able to be around them and not care if they think you're sexy or sweet. You need to be able to approach them the way you might approach and old friend and casually make light conversation with natural smiles and natural words. You need to just be sure of yourself as a likeable character in general.
So it's like, no one will date you just because you want them to, but they will date you if they want to. You want them to want you...so in order to do that, you have to stop wanting them so much haha weird! Not like completely, that would be total friendzone (and alluring though, for sure, but you'd be over them..which would be good!) And that's the thing, if you're so afraid of the idea of getting over them that's foolish, because if you truly loved them, the truth is you would never fully get over them. Because people never fully get over true loves. They can love others, but they will not entirely stop loving someone they once loved. So if you can stop loving someone completely and not care less if they live or die, then you've just proven you never really loved them enough in the first place!
So getting over someone is the greatest thing to do. If you get fully over them- boom- you're happy and free and you learned you never cared for them as much as you thought. If you get over the heart attacks and the crazy obsession but still have a warmth in your heart for them- then you are at the place to begin the manifesting.
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But like, we can't just wish a person back to us especially if we hurt them and I think that's worth mentioning. Like if you really crossed a line with someone, like very much crossed a line, by cheating or violence or destroying their property or stalking, then you cannot expect that person to just magically forget that and be open to reconciliation. There are things that are dealbreakers and most people in this world will not go back on their personal dealbreakers. So there are a lot of occasions where you will really just have to detach as fast as possible to save yourself from any more pain and who knows, maybe one day they might contact you, but they might not. But there are very strong people in the world who just do not go back after they've been betrayed or hurt and that's definitely worth respecting. Like I wouldn't take back someone who cheated on me. So there are some instances where the best thing to do is let go and really just move on and see what the future holds but not to hold out in hope. They have to want you, and if you really hurt them, you can't expect them to want you again.