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4/06/2016 11:17 pm  #11


Re: Is it morally wrong to attract someone

Here is my two cents. And I am in the same situation as you.

1. What is your intention? You said that you ate doing it because you love the person. Is it really just because just you love them and you want it for yourself? Or is it also because you want to make THEM happy? If you believe you can make them happy and that is your intention I think that isa noble thing and very different than just wanting it for yourself regardless of what is best for them.  For me, my desire is as much about pleasing her and making her feel loved as my own fulfillment.   

2. I have told myself,  and the universe, and her soul that when she comes back, if ayer some time she is not happy and glad she returned,  then I will let her go.  So my desire is not to take her against her will and keep her trapped.  I just want one more chance to show her what it feels like to be loved. If I am wrong andi am unable to make her happyi will let her go. So,  she maintains her free will.

3. You said you feel uneasy about it. You have to get past that. What you are doing is based on love.  If your love is pure,  There is nothing wrong with love. You have to feel good about what you're doing.

 

4/07/2016 1:40 am  #12


Re: Is it morally wrong to attract someone

Love is Real wrote:

Here is my two cents. And I am in the same situation as you.

1. What is your intention? You said that you ate doing it because you love the person. Is it really just because just you love them and you want it for yourself? Or is it also because you want to make THEM happy? If you believe you can make them happy and that is your intention I think that isa noble thing and very different than just wanting it for yourself regardless of what is best for them.  For me, my desire is as much about pleasing her and making her feel loved as my own fulfillment.   

2. I have told myself,  and the universe, and her soul that when she comes back, if ayer some time she is not happy and glad she returned,  then I will let her go.  So my desire is not to take her against her will and keep her trapped.  I just want one more chance to show her what it feels like to be loved. If I am wrong andi am unable to make her happyi will let her go. So,  she maintains her free will.

3. You said you feel uneasy about it. You have to get past that. What you are doing is based on love.  If your love is pure,  There is nothing wrong with love. You have to feel good about what you're doing.

Everybody choose their ways, but what i can read from this post in something what is opposite of LOA. Let me explain. In this post is almost everything based on her happines. So you put her in your pedestal, but if you want attract someone you must be on that pedestal. So in your world you are the king or God and everybody must do everything to make this king happy. So here goes just for your happines. It mean that even she will be unhappy, she must be with you? NO. If you create your relationships with her in happines than it must be like that, soo she will be very happy with you. That is all. Everything in this world is just imagintaion.

1. It is very nice to hear that somebody want other people be happy, but you must know that you must love yourself first and then other will love you. If you are happy with yourself that she will be happy with you if you create this version of your life. It is still your choose. But your question is good. We want them back just because our ego said soo and we were looser and we want revange or because we simple just still love them?

2. Your desire is mixed so you will get mixed manifestation. I want her but.... There is no but... Only i want her or don't want her.. Yes or no.

3. i absolutly agree with that point.

I hope that you didn't understand me wrong. i am not against anybody opinion, i just want to help you decide and go on right road.

I wish to everybody to have wonderfull day :D

 

4/07/2016 6:58 am  #13


Re: Is it morally wrong to attract someone

Personally, I like to flip this around. I tell myself I only messed with his "free will" by (unknowingly) attracting him breaking up with me, when his true desire was to be with me forever. I accidentally changed his mind against his will. And now by consciously using LOA I am merely setting things right and giving him back his true desire!

 

4/07/2016 10:15 am  #14


Re: Is it morally wrong to attract someone

JetPet wrote:

Personally, I like to flip this around. I tell myself I only messed with his "free will" by (unknowingly) attracting him breaking up with me, when his true desire was to be with me forever. I accidentally changed his mind against his will. And now by consciously using LOA I am merely setting things right and giving him back his true desire!

I just love this way of thinking!!!!

 

4/07/2016 2:36 pm  #15


Re: Is it morally wrong to attract someone

Leli wrote:

Everybody choose their ways, but what i can read from this post in something what is opposite of LOA. Let me explain. In this post is almost everything based on her happines. So you put her in your pedestal, but if you want attract someone you must be on that pedestal.

Thanks and I do understand what you are saying.   I'd like to add something to the discussion.   First, it makes me happy to make others happy.  it doesn't mean that I put everyone else on a pedestal and I am a low life.  In fact this part of myself is something that makes me feel really good about myself, that I care about the welfare of others.  In fact I believe that it is part of the evolution of humans, to realize we are all connected, and to stop being so selfish and greedy and to think about the greater needs of society and ALL of us, not just make lots of money and pass it on to your kids when you die.  To me, the "new age" of which LOA is a big part, includes the shift from self to others.  I don't think this at odds with LOA.  I have read many times that when people get better at using LOA they are less focused on getting money and things with it and they focus their energy on more important things.

I see my lover as a part of me.  So when I say I want to make her happy, I am saying that I want US to be happy together.  And that includes our kids and our extended family.  While I will get satisfaction and satisfcation from being back together, I am not the only one who will. I believe it will be a very happy day for many many people, not just me, and not just us.

I do have an issue with some of the LOA teachings sometimes, concerning how it only matters to make yourself happy.   I believe relationships are a very important part of being in this world.  And in relationships there is give and take.  I also think that if we are only focused on our own happiness, this can tend to focus our energy on our ego, which is NOT what we want to focus on.  Our ego will often tell us to go out and buy a half gallon of ice cream and sit on the couch and watch sitcoms. I hear heroin can make you feel REALLY good.  If we are only concerned about feeling good that is often where we will end up.   I believe it is our *higher self* that we want to focus on pleasing, not our ego.  Our higher self in general wants us to be not only happy but also healthy, so that we can feel joy.  Our Higher self wants us to take care of our body, as it is our temple.  I believe it wants us to exercise and eat right and get our happiness from things that promote health and well being.  

 

4/08/2016 12:32 am  #16


Re: Is it morally wrong to attract someone

Love is Real wrote:

I do have an issue with some of the LOA teachings sometimes, concerning how it only matters to make yourself happy.

For me this mean that you are focuse on yourself. So you start do all stuff which will give you personal growth, which will bring your inner satisfaction and good feelings. And for resultats you will get your love back and your relationship will be better, not just because you visualization like this, but because you personal growth and you can give much more now that you were ever capable. If i take my example i use a lot of methods to personal grow. Meditation, visualization, NLP, webinars, seminars, hipnosis etc...and people around me start talking how i changed, even my parents said that i am hole different person. Soo i am focused on my self because i want give her more of me, better me when she come back. And all this will make her happier. So focused on yourself, do your partner happier and i don't take this like part of ego, because when you go on road of your personal grow you almost kill your ego if you want achive your higer self.

 

4/08/2016 3:05 am  #17


Re: Is it morally wrong to attract someone

Leli wrote:

Love is Real wrote:

Here is my two cents. And I am in the same situation as you.

1. What is your intention? You said that you ate doing it because you love the person. Is it really just because just you love them and you want it for yourself? Or is it also because you want to make THEM happy? If you believe you can make them happy and that is your intention I think that isa noble thing and very different than just wanting it for yourself regardless of what is best for them.  For me, my desire is as much about pleasing her and making her feel loved as my own fulfillment.   

2. I have told myself,  and the universe, and her soul that when she comes back, if ayer some time she is not happy and glad she returned,  then I will let her go.  So my desire is not to take her against her will and keep her trapped.  I just want one more chance to show her what it feels like to be loved. If I am wrong andi am unable to make her happyi will let her go. So,  she maintains her free will.

3. You said you feel uneasy about it. You have to get past that. What you are doing is based on love.  If your love is pure,  There is nothing wrong with love. You have to feel good about what you're doing.

Everybody choose their ways, but what i can read from this post in something what is opposite of LOA. Let me explain. In this post is almost everything based on her happines. So you put her in your pedestal, but if you want attract someone you must be on that pedestal. So in your world you are the king or God and everybody must do everything to make this king happy. So here goes just for your happines. It mean that even she will be unhappy, she must be with you? NO. If you create your relationships with her in happines than it must be like that, soo she will be very happy with you. That is all. Everything in this world is just imagintaion.

1. It is very nice to hear that somebody want other people be happy, but you must know that you must love yourself first and then other will love you. If you are happy with yourself that she will be happy with you if you create this version of your life. It is still your choose. But your question is good. We want them back just because our ego said soo and we were looser and we want revange or because we simple just still love them?

2. Your desire is mixed so you will get mixed manifestation. I want her but.... There is no but... Only i want her or don't want her.. Yes or no.

3. i absolutly agree with that point.

I hope that you didn't understand me wrong. i am not against anybody opinion, i just want to help you decide and go on right road.

I wish to everybody to have wonderfull day :D

Thanks for this guys.
To answer you question. It's for pure unconditional love. I would like to have a relationship and future with him- family kids happily ever after. I would like him to be happy and for us to be in a happy relationship together.

But sometimes I wonder. What if be happier with someone else? That would be against loa thinking right? I mean what if he is happy with me but there is someone else who could make him happier?
Also if we really love someone should we not let them do whatever they want and set them free?
Or am I just thinking too much? I really love and want to be with him and don't want to come from a place of selfishness. I am also willing to leave things open. Him or someone else but deep down it is him that I wabt

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4/08/2016 6:22 am  #18


Re: Is it morally wrong to attract someone

Pink wrote:

Leli wrote:

Love is Real wrote:

Here is my two cents. And I am in the same situation as you.

1. What is your intention? You said that you ate doing it because you love the person. Is it really just because just you love them and you want it for yourself? Or is it also because you want to make THEM happy? If you believe you can make them happy and that is your intention I think that isa noble thing and very different than just wanting it for yourself regardless of what is best for them. For me, my desire is as much about pleasing her and making her feel loved as my own fulfillment.

2. I have told myself, and the universe, and her soul that when she comes back, if ayer some time she is not happy and glad she returned, then I will let her go. So my desire is not to take her against her will and keep her trapped. I just want one more chance to show her what it feels like to be loved. If I am wrong andi am unable to make her happyi will let her go. So, she maintains her free will.

3. You said you feel uneasy about it. You have to get past that. What you are doing is based on love. If your love is pure, There is nothing wrong with love. You have to feel good about what you're doing.

Everybody choose their ways, but what i can read from this post in something what is opposite of LOA. Let me explain. In this post is almost everything based on her happines. So you put her in your pedestal, but if you want attract someone you must be on that pedestal. So in your world you are the king or God and everybody must do everything to make this king happy. So here goes just for your happines. It mean that even she will be unhappy, she must be with you? NO. If you create your relationships with her in happines than it must be like that, soo she will be very happy with you. That is all. Everything in this world is just imagintaion.

1. It is very nice to hear that somebody want other people be happy, but you must know that you must love yourself first and then other will love you. If you are happy with yourself that she will be happy with you if you create this version of your life. It is still your choose. But your question is good. We want them back just because our ego said soo and we were looser and we want revange or because we simple just still love them?

2. Your desire is mixed so you will get mixed manifestation. I want her but.... There is no but... Only i want her or don't want her.. Yes or no.

3. i absolutly agree with that point.

I hope that you didn't understand me wrong. i am not against anybody opinion, i just want to help you decide and go on right road.

I wish to everybody to have wonderfull day :D

Thanks for this guys.
To answer you question. It's for pure unconditional love. I would like to have a relationship and future with him- family kids happily ever after. I would like him to be happy and for us to be in a happy relationship together.

But sometimes I wonder. What if be happier with someone else? That would be against loa thinking right? I mean what if he is happy with me but there is someone else who could make him happier?
Also if we really love someone should we not let them do whatever they want and set them free?
Or am I just thinking too much? I really love and want to be with him and don't want to come from a place of selfishness. I am also willing to leave things open. Him or someone else but deep down it is him that I wabt

Happier with someone else? He can be happy with you or somebody else, but this is not because another women is better then you. This is because she radiate better energy. That is all. So if you think that there is one woman who can be better than you then you have right and it will be like this. But if you thnik that there is noone better then you for him, then you have one more time right. Everything is in your tought. You choose. Ask yourself how would you feel if you are the best for him?
 

 

4/08/2016 10:13 pm  #19


Re: Is it morally wrong to attract someone

you have to ask yourself if you think he could be happier with someone else.  that's up to you, isn't it?  if you think you can create a fulfilling relationship for both of you, I bet you can do that, if that's what you want.

for me..... there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that NO ONE in this world can make her as happy as I can.  We have been together 30 YEARS!  No one knows her like I do.  No one knows that spot on her back that needs to be rubbed every night.  I screwed up because my mind questioned the relationship and I created the split up.  so now I have to create the reconciliation.   it's the challenge of my life.  but one thing I know.   I can make her happy like no one else can on this planet and she is going to be SOOOOO glad she came back to me.

 

4/08/2016 10:33 pm  #20


Re: Is it morally wrong to attract someone

Love is Real wrote:

you have to ask yourself if you think he could be happier with someone else.  that's up to you, isn't it?  if you think you can create a fulfilling relationship for both of you, I bet you can do that, if that's what you want.

for me..... there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that NO ONE in this world can make her as happy as I can.  We have been together 30 YEARS!  No one knows her like I do.  No one knows that spot on her back that needs to be rubbed every night.  I screwed up because my mind questioned the relationship and I created the split up.  so now I have to create the reconciliation.   it's the challenge of my life.  but one thing I know.   I can make her happy like no one else can on this planet and she is going to be SOOOOO glad she came back to me.

Yes!!! I agree 100%. Loving this discussion!!

I really believe there is no such thing as "meant to be." That would indicate that someone or something outside of you calls the shots and decides. There is only what you decide. The universe will always guide you in the best way possible to your desires, but only if you let it. Your destiny is not simply to be with XYZ. Your destiny is to create a life of receiving whatever it is you desire! I am the best partner for my guy because I know I am, and that's all there is to it. (Plus I know I have a million advantages over his gf - I was the original love of his life, and also I know the secrets of letting the powers of the universe flow to my advantage, and I have it on my side - how can I lose??)

This morning he actually slipped and said he still has feelings for me!! Then he tried to backtrack and say he meant to say he still respects me and our history etc... Whatever, I heard the words and I know it's just a short matter of time before things REALLY start shifting!!! Woohoo!

Whatever you desire is yours. Not only that, but you deserve it too - don't feel guilty or selfish or undeserving of your desires. You're a beautiful person and you can be, do, or have anything - just by knowing and understanding how this all works (basically loving yourself and trusting that all is well, and knowing that everything that happens is simply part of the universe's grand plan of bringing you what you want). How cool is that!?! 💜💜
 

 

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