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Help me align please... 🙈 » Being ignored » 7/28/2019 2:52 pm

fizzy
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Oxolove wrote:

Thank you Fizzy! I’ve been taking a break from doing anything on this situation for my mental health. I think it’s possible it’s just changing my perspective that he won’t be able to forget all the bad memories between us.

Remember that you create everything about him — even his thoughts. So if YOU deliberately begin to think the past doesn’t matter to him and don’t let yourself think otherwise, you will manifest him being over all of the bad past memories. It’s that simple. It may not be easy at first, but that’s truly all you need to do.

If you’d like to take it a step further (you don’t have to) and change the bad memories, you could do that as well. Changing memories actually changes the past. The past is only made up of the memories you believe happened. So you can choose to believe something else. When you change the past, everyone else will remember the new past with you, because you create other people. If this interests you, look into Neville Goddard’s revision method.

Help me align please... 🙈 » Is it possible? Help with my block! » 7/27/2019 4:55 pm

fizzy
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thedreamer11 wrote:

"It's also possible for Olive to manifest a relationship with this bloke if that is what she wants and I have never said otherwise."
But the blockage is her creation, if she dont solve it, she will always meet the pattern again in anothers peoples, treating it as an external problem is treating the symptoms and not the cause. 
 

Absolutely.

Help me align please... 🙈 » Is it possible? Help with my block! » 7/27/2019 4:38 pm

fizzy
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Cynthia wrote:

 Since we're in agreement about 'everybody being you pushed out', you may be missing the point that the OP has created Kasper saying what she said, otherwise you're saying it only applies part of the time or in certain situàtions, and you've already said it doesn't. From what you've said, it sounds like you'd like to ban any non-'LOA' comments from a forum like this. How are you going to do that if somebody is creating that for themselves? The last time I heard there was still freedom of speech in at least part of the world. I don't agree with Kasper's comments, but if somebody is so weak and wishy-washy about what they say they want that they're going to let comments like that sway them away from what they say they want, they couldn't have wanted it very badly.

So you agree that new people who come here should be subjected to ‘non-LOA’ comments. Why? Many come here trying to understand the concept of ‘Everyone is you pushed out’ itself. If they don’t yet fully understand it, how are they going to recognize that the comments on the post are just them pushed out? And if they wanted these ‘regular, non-LOA’ remarks, they most likely wouldn’t be seeking help here.

I thought one of the purposes of moderating a forum was to keep all comments/advice in line with the purpose of the forum as much as possible?

Help me align please... 🙈 » Is it possible? Help with my block! » 7/27/2019 1:38 pm

fizzy
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PrettyFlamingo wrote:

I'm sitting in the pub with my two best friends now and interrupting my time with them to respond. I agree with Kasper's sentiment as applied to myself and that is the approach I would take if it applied to me. In no way am I advising Olive to take that approach. I personally would not invest time on a person I'd known for a short time who had disappeared as I wouldn't be able to make a judgment about them after two encounters. Others may want to do things differently and that is their right. It's important to decide for yourself what's worth spending time on. That is the point I'm making.

But even just saying that you can’t make a judgment about the person after two encounters is a failure to recognize that YOU create them. There’s no judgment to be made. They don’t have their own personality. YOU create their personality and have the ability to change it — utterly and completely. That’s exactly what ‘Everyone is you pushed out’ MEANS. There is no other meaning to it. So that being said, do you now see why we’ve been saying to you what we have? We are trying to get you to see that even the way you, yourself, would approach this is not in line with conscious creation. And that’s fine. But when you comment on someone’s post who is looking for LOA advice, this isn’t helpful to them. In fact, it’s confusing. Four people have told you this now.

I’m sorry if you feel attacked, you are the one we are all bringing up because it’s YOUR responses that four of us disagree with.

Also sorry if you felt you needed to take time out from being with friends to respond. The beauty of a forum is you have the freedom to respond any time you can.

Help me align please... 🙈 » Is it possible? Help with my block! » 7/27/2019 1:07 pm

fizzy
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Cynthia wrote:

I haven't even looked at this forum for over a month and probably won't again, but this has disintegrated into an attack on PrettyFlamingo, and that's not right or justified. She's the only person who has done any real moderation on here for years, and she's been more than fair. Nobody else has cared enough to even be bothered. PF has come a very long way. I understand what she means. It's got nothing to do with the concept of everybody being you pushed out, which I fully agree with. Neither she nor anybody else has said it's not possible for the OP to manifest a relationship with the person in question.

“I don't understand why you would even want a guy who after he is intimate with you disappears then tells you he wants someone else???  You only had 2 dates ( if Im reading that right) you didn't even know him but you know now he is not a good guy...let this loser go   sorry but someone had to say it... he just showed you he is NOT into you and only wanted one thing.he  got it now he is MIA......and you still want him??? lordy people come on...”

Above is Kasper’s comment copy and pasted. PF said she strongly agrees with what Kasper has said here. How does this fall in line with the concept of ‘Everyone is you pushed out’? If PF strongly agrees with this viewpoint, it DOES go against ‘Everyone is you pushed out’. And that’s why the concept was brought up.

I’m not sure why you are viewing this as an attack on PF. All we are saying is things that are clearly not in line with conscious creation, which Kasper’s comment clearly isn’t, should not be allowed here. And honestly, the fact that a moderator on a conscious creation forum ‘strongly agrees’ with such a comment is a bit frustrating. I’m not sugar coating that.

Help me align please... 🙈 » Is it possible? Help with my block! » 7/27/2019 11:32 am

fizzy
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thedreamer11 wrote:

You have a beautiful mind Fizzy https://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons3/smile.png


"what this forum was made to discuss, can be confusing to people just starting out in learning to consciously create."

Very true, when I first meet Loa I did become very confused with this mixed approach ( materialism with Loa).

Wow, that’s nice of you to say! Thanks

Help me align please... 🙈 » Is it possible? Help with my block! » 7/27/2019 11:04 am

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Selfloveiskey wrote:

Agreed. I’ve seen the same comments for years heck even on my old posts ( some not here)  and I did end up getting my guy back more then once. Obviously I still had stuff to learn but I was told time and again why would you want him back get someone better. But yet they got mad when I questioned loa? Doesn’t make sense. Now he actually said a lot of things I visualized and has been so sweet and loving to me for a long time. I remember when I felt horrible and those comments just didn’t help and made me doubt loa more because it seemed like there was always a catch. It didn’t help me,  strangely enough when I stepped away for awhile and was on my own that did more then here lol But yeah there is no point to doing this if they don’t listen. I ll have to check out reddit. I do think moderators here have favorites and they do get rid of the comments they don’t like that doesn’t fit their beliefs.

Congrats on your successes!

Help me align please... 🙈 » Is it possible? Help with my block! » 7/27/2019 10:19 am

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PrettyFlamingo wrote:

Selflove: Reread your fourth sentence. That is exactly what I have said.

This may be what you intend to say, but it’s not what you actually say to people. Often the comments I see from you are something along the lines of “Why would you want a person who does xyz...”. Which is again, completely ignoring the fact that everyone is you pushed out. Which is ignoring the fact that you create everything. Which is ignoring LOA and in no way relevant to LOA.

I’m not sure why you pointed out one sentence in her post but ignored the rest of what she, Anita, and I have said. I guess it’s all falling on deaf ears.

Selfloveiskey, if you see this, I completely agree. If nothing is going to change and it’s all being ignored and falling on deaf ears, I think there’s really no point in partaking in discussion here. Personally, I’ve found Reddit has some good conscious creation forums. All irrelevant comments are always deleted by moderators.

Help me align please... 🙈 » Is it possible? Help with my block! » 7/27/2019 8:30 am

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Anita wrote:

I think that Every comment should be delete if have nothing with loa..its not helping what he wrote ..Its just do confusion and  it create negative beliefs that her sp never change and she should be  move on..I dont like  if I read advice who has nothing with loa..in the past when I wanted advice and you commented from non loa perspective so I didnt feel better because this type advice I can read on other forum where people dont know loa.. 

Yes, Anita, exactly! The original moderator here would’ve done just that. That’s obvious by what she posted. And that’s exactly how it should be in a forum intended for LOA discussion. You’re exactly correct with what you said about beliefs.

Help me align please... 🙈 » Is it possible? Help with my block! » 7/27/2019 8:25 am

fizzy
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PrettyFlamingo wrote:

Please remember everyone that this is a discussion board, and therefore we will find a variety of views and observations. It's up to everyone to read comments and make their own conclusions. I wouldn't expect spoon feeding direction or recipes. We will find a selection of responses and not everyone will agree. I'm sure there is no intention to confuse anyone, but there is room for discussion without argument.

For myself, I will give my own view on something but would never direct someone. We need to have a space for healthy debate without argument or conflicts.

As a moderator I will remove posts that are irrelevant and disruptive, but not those that are part of healthy debate such as Kasper's (and indeed my own). That is not confusing, misdirection or in contradiction of law of attraction or conscious creation. Instead it's mature discussion. My comment was around considering why you want something and there's nothing wrong with that. It's something I would ask myself before starting to manifest something as I feel it's important to me to know that. But that is my own approach, not advice, and not contradicting conscious creation.

As an example relating to the original post, it's entirely possible that the guy being discussed was fresh from a break up and not over his ex. It's also entirely possible for Olive to achieve a relationship with the guy (living in the end, mental diet, changing your chatter and so on) as Fizzy has pointed out. If, indeed that's what she really wants.

“The forum exists for  the purpose of discussing the Law of Attraction, and how we are utilising LOA teachings in our lives.

This forum is absolutely NOT a support group, hotline, crisis centre or substitute for emotional guidance outside of the scope of LOA teachings. The sole and definitive purpose of Veronica's forum is to celebrate and discuss with like-minded people how we each integrate LOA into our daily lives.”

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